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Cryomancer 18/02/11(Sun)19:59 No. 778977
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Here's a wild idea:

If someone has gender dysphoria, why not adjust the mind to align with the body instead of doing vice versa?


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Lorf 18/02/11(Sun)21:35 No. 778978

The most scientific way to answer that would be to try both and see what happens, but people get weird about treating that kind of human experimentation as a crime against humanity. No amount of consent or waiver signing can seem to stop the butthurt.

What you could do is pull a Unit 731: do the experiments on prisoners during wartime and get out of trouble in exchange for giving all your research to the winning government. If you believe that we're getting close to making WWIII, the time for this may be sooner rather than later.


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Cryomancer 18/02/12(Mon)02:34 No. 778983

how would you adjust the mind?


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Bob Ross 18/02/12(Mon)04:45 No. 778984

>>778983
"Adjusting the mind" in a vague general sense is easy. People do it every time they drink their caffeine-laden morning coffee or repeat their daily affirmations they got from a self-help book.

For these specific results, it gets a little fuzzier to imagine. One wild guess involves a backbone of cognitive behavioral therapy plus or minus drugs and/or brain surgery. Yeah, it sounds a bit out there, but at one time so did using surgery to turn a penis into a vagina and vice versa.


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Bob Ross 18/02/12(Mon)04:52 No. 778985

>>778983
Pills, therapy, a brick.

>>778978
They already have. That's why you need to go through therapy before you get the hormones, and then you gotta be on the hormones for 2 years before they chop your dick off. The whole reason they do that is because sometimes the whole transitioning thing will not only not work, but actually make it worse. Because what the SJWs fail to understand (or don't bother to actually think about) is that sometimes it is just sexual or them hating themselves. And once their dick is gone and they realize they made a horrible mistake they contribute to that suicide statistic they're always crying about.


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Mudkip 18/02/12(Mon)09:44 No. 778990

>>778985
These days that therapy is focused more on firmly establishing your gender-swapped identity than attempting to dissuade anyone from mutilating their genitals or establishing a diagnosis that might prevent anyone from having reassignment surgery.

It's bad PR if people end up regretting their sex change, and performing the procedure is a lucrative endeavor, so the doctors do their best to make sure a prospective mark goes through with the operation and doesn't make trouble for them after.


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h 18/02/12(Mon)14:09 No. 778992

yeah dude just change your entire sexual orientatiobn

n also quit not being like me


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Twincess Applesparkle Rainbowfly 18/02/13(Tue)02:19 No. 779003

>>778990
Each day therapy becomes more and more of a pseudoscience. Psychiatrists still need a doctorate, right?


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herp 18/02/13(Tue)07:50 No. 779005

>>778992
Remeber when "gender" and "sexual orientation" described two different concepts?


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Reimu Hakurei 18/02/13(Tue)13:27 No. 779006

>>779005
You mean always?


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4chan user 18/02/13(Tue)14:59 No. 779007

>>779006
Apparently the two are now combined into "gender identity", because people who feel driven to act out every stupid impulse they have and call it their "self" don't have time for nuanced psychological and physiological distinctions.


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poe 18/02/13(Tue)21:38 No. 779010


>>778990
i don't think anon was saying therapy is for dissuading people. But you seem to suggest the professionals serving the trannies are conmen? Is that your position?

>>779007
Well that seems pretty airwolfing stupid. If i wanted to have a doctor lop off my dick, scoop out a dry imitation of a vag in my crotch, AND i still wanted to munch box... Then wouldn't i just be a lesbian then? A homosexual even?

That's the problem with two part logic i suppose. No room for NULL.




Here's a pic of Buck Angel and asshole#0. i'd call Buck a guy because that's a airwolfing guy in those clothes.
Then there's this pic of Buck without clothes. i have no idea what label to put on that by sight. It is unknown.

So let it be that there are three genders: male, female, and NULL; and all shall be good.


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Novice Equestrian 18/02/14(Wed)00:13 No. 779013

>>779010
>the professionals serving the trannies are conmen
Not exactly, as they don't make the sales pitch themselves, but they do enjoy a nice payout if the patients go through with the operation. The therapists get paid, the surgeons get paid, the hospitals get paid, etc.

>that seems pretty airwolfing stupid
My point exactly. It's really airwolfing stupid. People who can't distinguish between how they feel about their bodies and who or what they want to have sex with are airwolfing stupid.


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tee 18/02/14(Wed)05:01 No. 779018

>>779010
>Angel gradually concluded that he did not need a penis because it is not what defined him as a man. He learned to love his body, and he came to be satisfied with what he was given.

Although he did have his tits chopped off, I think this is a story every person identifying as a gender other than their physical one should hear. How your body looks, and how you feel about yourself, do not require surgery to fit together. You can take hormone therapy, you can chane how you dress, talk, and behave, and be just as happy with who you are as you would be after mutilation.

I think the truth is a lot of transgendered people suffer from severe depression, hating themselves as a result of abuse, trauma, or social rejection in their youth. Their gender dysphoria may be unrelated, but the need to physically alter one's body almost certainly stems from a form of self-loathing that it is unlikely to cure.

I very much doubt a majority of those who have "reassignment" surgery go on to live happy, fulfilling lives.

>male, female, and NULL
Unfortunately it's not quite that simple. There are more than two physical genders; there are an array of variations of hermaphroditism. Then there's what you are talking about: percieved gender. That's the "social construct" so many gender dysphoric faggots are butthurt about (although many are incapable of distinguishing the concept from physical gender >>779007, leading to such idiocy as using the word "assignment" to describe the act of correctly identifying their genetalia or chromosomes at birth). I don't see why it should matter to another person what my opinion of their gender might be--if they are confident with their identity, then they don't need anyone else to agree with them.


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Mudkip 18/02/14(Wed)16:55 No. 779025

If ur gay you dont need surgry

I truly believe this but wanted to make fun of everyone

I think trans women can be beautiful, airwolfable, marriage material and women even and still have a penis. Until it's perfected and they can give you a working uterus it really is just mutilation. Grafting a damn pocket pussy to your abdomen you know? If that makes you feel better your problems are more extreme than wanting to be a certain way or be loved a certain way

I always felt like trans chicks lop their dicks off because they want someone to just love them as a girl. Trans men probably just want to powerairwolf stuff but it just wont happen. It might not ever, you can still be loved by someone.

Maybe they really feel like they have a vagina I guess. Seems gross and ignorant to me though, there's no way being airwolfed in that goochhole would feel the same to you

but hey if you wanna pretend and... what the hell amn I talking about

I should look up transexual porn next


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Closet Furry 18/02/14(Wed)17:15 No. 779027

>>779018
hermaphrodites are a gender the same way Downs Syndrome is a new species. It's a genetic defect, not a sex.


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herp 18/02/14(Wed)19:09 No. 779030

>>779027
That's one way of looking at it, and I can't entirely disagree. At least they have legitimate cause to wonder what to call themselves, unlike faggots with matching chromosomes and genetailia who can't get enough attention being how or who they were born.


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Novice Equestrian 18/02/14(Wed)20:57 No. 779032

>>778985
>chopping off dick.
I believe that's called a botched operation.
>Botched operations are unethical yet they made it a standard procedure.
>A Vagino-plasty is a procedure that takes your penis and moves pulls it in and turns it into a clitorous.
>They move the shaft of the penis to make room for the vagina and they cut a hole to make a urethra.
>Other than the hole the penis is still there.
>This should be the standard for transitioning but isn't, because I guess botched operations are easier.
>If Vagino-plastys were common we wouldn't have so many suicides.
>How would you feel if you lost the sensations nessesary to have sex?
>You'd probably kill yourself too.
>The reason we don't hear about botched operations is because it's related to genitalia.
>Its embarrassing.
>Trans women don't talk about what these horibble doctors did to them.
>If they did there might be at least some backlash.


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herp 18/02/14(Wed)21:01 No. 779033

>>778985
Also, I'm new here because I got tired of 4Chan and 8Chan's shit.


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ian 18/02/14(Wed)21:18 No. 779034

>>779033

>Send email to Bump
>I'm new here
>4chan
>wall of greentext

we don't take kindly to strangers round here

lurk moar or get out


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Spiderman 18/02/15(Thu)03:10 No. 779045

>>779034
you tell em, skeeter


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He-Man 18/02/15(Thu)05:55 No. 779051

>>779045
'round these parts we don't take kindly to rational thought and careful consideration of facts


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He-Man 18/02/15(Thu)17:30 No. 779061

>>779051
You need to get off your high horse, and when you do, share the video of it in Liru's Valentine's thread because there are folks there that want to see you bring a weed-smoking mare to climax.


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h 18/02/15(Thu)19:52 No. 779062

>>779051
Actually, we do. We're just a little overrun with newfags who don't at the moment.

>>779061
That would be a thing to see.



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