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Anonymous 16/11/19(Sat)08:23 No. 12719 ID: 2ff195 [Reply]
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Anyone have an opinion on anything? I'm feeling sophisticated.


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Anonymous 16/11/26(Sat)03:14 No. 12725 ID: 1e1b4e

i feel that since no one has the cosmic authority to tell you what reality is. You can can go to the grave believing any idea you want and it can be 100% real.


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Anonymous 17/02/27(Mon)10:38 No. 12837 ID: cecc58

I believe the value of the human ideological structure will exponentially drop until the entire mass is seen as one collective. When there weren't many of us, ancient mythologies held much power over our souls. Now you can make a religion on a Saturday and find that it's quite profitable.

I believe time just outside of our narrow peripherals is growing more dense. More things can and are all happening with each passing moment, though our perception remains unchanged. When time collapses on itself, what happens to the material world?




Anonymous 14/06/08(Sun)21:47 No. 11497 ID: 1d3945 [Reply]
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Describe me the glass of water.


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Anonymous 17/02/12(Sun)13:29 No. 12817 ID: f437b7
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>>12803


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Anonymous 17/02/12(Sun)21:47 No. 12818 ID: aaca54

this glass was full until a bunch of illegal immigrants and dead people came along and removed half of it


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Anonymous 17/02/20(Mon)01:33 No. 12833 ID: 781a41

do not think about a glass of water




Anonymous 17/02/17(Fri)01:00 No. 12819 ID: f7426b [Reply]
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Why does Ayn Rand get so much criticism? I've only read The Fountainhead from her but from what I gather objectivism seems like it makes sense. It's kind of like this rational self interest that's similar to Nietzsche's philosiphy


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Anonymous 17/02/17(Fri)01:18 No. 12820 ID: 74fa81

The Fountainhead is NOT considered Rand's magnum opus. It's Atlas Shrugged. Until you slog through that phone book of a treatises-disguised-as-a-novel, you will not understand either side of the Randian argument.




Anonymous 15/03/21(Sat)00:47 No. 12097 ID: 1df3c1 [Reply]
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Do you, my fellow philosophers, think suicide and anorexia are a result of north american consumerism and the culture of always wanting to be better, or are just diseases that people are born with?


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Anonymous 16/06/13(Mon)08:58 No. 12593 ID: e13cdc

>>12162

Why don't pessimist just fucking kill themselves

solving overpopulation, their own "problem," and making the world a more tolerable place with one fell swoop


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Anonymous 17/02/08(Wed)11:49 No. 12815 ID: 976d0d

I think that this could be tied to Ulrich Beck's idea of a risk society. In that people have (near) completely wiped out the idea of natural disasters such as earthquakes and tsunamis by means of technology. And in this we have created new risks for ourselves such as obesity as an epidemic, or diseases becoming immune to vaccines and evolving to a level that could kill millions. These risks, to quote Ben Wisner, these risks involve "incalculable horrors with unknown statistical probability". These sort of attribute to a sort of society that constantly has dangers looming in the back of one's mind at all times. And I believe this affects it. Along with many of the things that others had said including consumerism.


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Anonymous 17/02/12(Sun)05:05 No. 12816 ID: b7b1ba

I think you're thinking in a very curious manner. Suicide is not news, nor an american invention, nor a disease, and vaguely if at all linked to anorexia. Ending one's life at a given point where there's no reason for continuing with it is more of a privilege than a desperate move.
And no, anorexia is not something you're born with, it's a product of the development of the individual in a certain social and cultural environment.




Anonymous 17/02/05(Sun)05:14 No. 12812 ID: 78bebb [Reply]
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Have you taken the UG Pill?




sage 17/01/12(Thu)06:52 No. 12785 ID: 66a496 [Reply]
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Are video games (and probably TV) viable only because we live in a post-existential age where, for most, seeking to escape reality is not only feasible, but accepted and constantly improved upon vis a vis VR, better graphics, and widespread glorification of more and more extreme forms of excitement/violence in our media?


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Anonymous 17/01/12(Thu)07:34 No. 12786 ID: ca3ceb

Entertainment existed since we lived in caves yo.


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Anonymous 17/01/22(Sun)03:43 No. 12794 ID: ed8b6e

Video games are, for most people, a means for people to regain control over lives, even if it's virtual.


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Anonymous 17/01/25(Wed)09:02 No. 12802 ID: ca3ceb

>>12794
Pff. You're gonna have to explain that one.

If you're thinking what I think you're thinking, I'm just gonna have to remind you of Tetris.




Free Will Anonymous 16/12/23(Fri)13:13 No. 12759 ID: 4da869 [Reply]
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You have 10 seconds to prove why this guy isn't 100% correct.

Pro tip: you can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4k07oeDFUg


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Anonymous 16/12/30(Fri)12:14 No. 12772 ID: 4da869

>>12771
>All he describes behaves the way it does because the underlying function of the universe requires it to do so.

Correct. It is always the universe acting the only way it can. Changing the WAY that you look at it doesn't change the underlying thing that is happening.

>They do not have free will until they are put into a context of a system.

That is precisely what the video is saying. Free will does exist, and free will does not exist, at the same time. It depends on what context you are looking at.

> In this way, it has free will, and does not have free will

Exactly.

(Thanks fam, I appreciate the discussion)


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Anonymous 17/01/02(Mon)18:56 No. 12781 ID: f3ebab
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>>12771
Free will can exist in the world of the noumenal if you want to go the Kantian route. As long as you posit that the mind structures its appearances and thus uses concepts, or as Kant would call it, "categories" there is no contradiction in positing freedom in the noumenal and having the effect or consequence of freedom be posited in the phenomenal realm. That is, to sum up the argument that Kant makes: there are certain concepts that structure our reality and once you go beyond these concepts that structure your experience you go beyond the phenomenal realm and into the noumenal. Thus there is a distinction between phenomenal and noumenal, the thing-in-itself and the world of appearance. There would be no contradiction in positing freedom in the noumenal and then positing freedom's effects in the world of empirical conditions and conditioned, except the empirically conditioned would just be seemingly and substantially noumenal. The Kantian perspective is a bit clearer than the Buddhist in my opinion.It almost seems like we're saying the same thing in different words though.

Kant's proof for free-will is brilliant.


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Anonymous 17/01/22(Sun)10:19 No. 12797 ID: ed8b6e

Do we get a choice as if we want to?
Cause I don't really want to.




Deism is the only belief that makes sense. Anonymous 16/12/09(Fri)15:07 No. 12747 ID: 57a468 [Reply]

Now, why would a supreme being like God even care about a bunch of stupid apes like us?

He is probably just programmer who made our universe as a test simulation and eventually abandon the project.

Evolution is merely just a function in the code of the universe. God didn't create us as he only wrote the function and the code did the rest of the work. So why would he care about some primates who became capable of recognizing his existence?


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Anonymous 17/01/18(Wed)14:08 No. 12791 ID: 084328

My mum has the idea that because god is so great he has the capacity to love everyone individually, thats how great he is.

pretty interesting if you think about it


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Anonymous 17/01/21(Sat)20:14 No. 12793 ID: 47863f

Maybe He Cares because we are Part of his Energie and connected to him..
Half animal, half god.




The cold indifference of the universe Anonymous 16/12/28(Wed)00:09 No. 12765 ID: 84060f [Reply]
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I do not necessarily have a fear of death. I actually sometimes think it would be cool to just not exist anymore and have nothing to worry about. It's still scary, but in comparison to what has begun to plague my thoughts it's nothing.

Anxiety has made me go through a lot. I used to be comfortable in my body and familiar with it. I felt happy, safe, and at home. After all the mental pain, intense stomach-crushing fear, I am left with an unsettling feeling about everything. I feel like I am a prisoner of reality. This universe summoned my consciousness here, with no choice on my part as far as I'm aware, to live this life, during which I have had to deal with these intense and horrible sensations.

The fact that there was nothing I could do about it, that there is no one to help, that the only thing I can reach out to is other monkeys in clothes who are also trapped in their own minds (though it's probably a better place in there), is incredibly isolating.

I have felt a pure, raw fear of death and eternity. I am no longer confident in reality. I am disturbed by its existence. I have no idea how I lived so long without thinking much of it.

The fact that it's probably possible that a few million years from now a group of aliens summons my consciousness again and induces torture and pain for thousands of years with no rest, and the universe just wouldn't care in its indifferent coldness, is terrifying. I'm scared of reality in that way. The fact that every horrible nightmare we can come up with could happen someday, and there is just no way to know.

This all feels very surreal. I feel uncomfortable being a brain. I can't trust my body not to get sick and give me a slow and painful or fast and even more painful death.

What is going on? Where are all the cameras?


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Anonymous 16/12/28(Wed)21:28 No. 12768 ID: 408a9f

Do not worry too long about the Universe or the Universe may worry about you. Instead of something helpful, here are 10 anecdotes.

Your health defines only your physical existence. Be the type of person that can consider themself grounded.

When society exerts that global temperature or politics is the leading problem in the world today, find 300 ways to ignore them.

Only the Good die young can mean more than one thing. Life is a lot more about fresh air than computers.

For the incredible number of negative and polluting things in society there is nearly always a pocket of good.

Smart people don't watch TV. Movies are good, Old movies are better, and music can make you sing.

Learning is good for the soul.

Global systems run intensively Cryptographic data through wires, stations, and satellites to your home. You should never let that get you down.
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Anonymous 16/12/30(Fri)13:31 No. 12773 ID: f3ebab

No one knows what's going on. Philosophy and mathematics are the closest thing to Platonic purity we can get. This is why I love philosophy. It's the only pure form of human activity along with mathematics that humans can do. Your soul is striving for certainty in a world of chaos. It's good to ask questions and be curious, but not pathologically so. There's a certain amount of philosophical certainty you should strive for, too much will drive you mad. Existence and consciousness seems to be too complicated for it not to have some kind of purpose, hold on to the Kantian super-sensible and the moral vocation we humans have. Start to contemplate beauty more, and the transcendentals. It will help with the eldritch form of the universe that we're automagically stuck in. The more you philosophize the more you can feel our supersensible nature more, or what Plato would call the Forms. Philosophy and math will let you grasp towards the infinite. You might enjoy Spinoza's Letter on the Infinite. A very short introduction to Spinoza that his friends read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendentals

I'd recommend the Critique of Judgment for an analysis of beauty. Though it would help if you are already familiar with Kant. To get into the Critique of Judgment you should be familiar with the Critique of Pure Reason and the Critique of Practical Reason.

Here's a science documentary on people who had near-death experiences if you're interested in learning about what comes next. Maybe there is a purpose to it all, who knows. http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/day-i-died/

I'd also recommend Terrence Malick's filmography. He's a philosophical filmmaker who enjoys contemplating the sublime. His films might help ease you into the beauty of human nature. Tree of Life and Knight of Cups are films I'd particularly recommend for you.
Just keep philosophizing bro, you'll be fine. The questions are all that matter for now.


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Anonymous 16/12/30(Fri)21:37 No. 12775 ID: ccdc91

Death is a fabrication, honestly, just like the rest of the world of appearances. Death is a worse offender in my opinion, though, because the only thing that separates us from a "dead state" is a lack of conscious states. Many people think that we are conscious states, rather than that we have them. It's a bit like the idea of the soul in that there is no reason to suppose a separate mind with perfect continuity, and all evidence suggests the opposite, but we still cling to it as a final vestige of folk psychology.




Space Anonymous 16/12/29(Thu)18:09 No. 12769 ID: d9c4c1 [Reply]
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I was always wondering why all these star freaks obsess over the cosmos.

What is so interesting about space?
At best its a meaningless expanse full of dead rocks and deadly dangers.

Deadly radiation from stars, pulsars and other galactic crap.
Gigantic gravity well of meaninglessness like gas giants and black holes.
Dead rock and chemicals some so cold they kill everything others so hot they burn everything to death.

The universe seams to be a insignificant expanse and the human experience seams far to incredible to waste it over watching pointless chemicals and rocks.

What is there to gain in the universe?
At best you will see a planet with a different collaring do to some chemicals.

What is so interesting about it? You can get the same by simply putting some colored glasses and fiction (films, comics) have provided far more interesting vistas to see.
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Anonymous 16/12/29(Thu)20:21 No. 12770 ID: 854de6

>>12769
>At best you will see a planet with a different collaring do to some chemicals.
At best we'll find another intelligent civilization.


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Anonymous 16/12/31(Sat)11:12 No. 12777 ID: 55f518

>>12770
>At best we'll find another intelligent civilization.

Why be sad about not getting to explore space?
This is the question.




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