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Selfish and speciesist behavior as 'genetic reproductive strategy Anonymous 17/09/02(Sat)07:35 No. 13093 ID: d5439c [Reply]

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Here's a spicy one. It's pretty simple too. Maybe I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. Anyway, enjoy.


If a human does something to seriously harm and deprive fellow humans, or even something to seriously harm and deprive other species (for example, making them go extinct), is this poor and unintelligent 'genetic reproductive strategy'?

For example, let's just make some random, kind of exaggerated scenarios.

In scenario 1.) Elon Musk finds a way to reproduce by budding. The police try to stop him, so he is left with their choice to either surrender, or destroy Earth and create a self-sustaining colony on Mars. So, out of supposed good 'genetic reproductive strategy,' he goes through with the latter option. Sure, he succeeded in propagating his unique DNA more than otherwise, but he also destroyed the all species on Earth, one of which was carrying 99% DNA similar to him (humanity).

Another scenario, 2.) humanity finds a cure for cancer, but it involves killing all of the other primates. Humanity goes through with the plan, and all other primates are dead. Humanity helped itself thrive and prosper more by eliminating cancer, but what about the fact that many of those primates contained 95% similar DNA to humans? Humans succeeded in propagating the DNA that is unique to humans over the other primates, but they also hurt biodiversity and made it so that there will be no remaining primates if humans go extinct.

So is speciesist and extremely selfish strategy really beneficial 'genetic reproductive strategy'? Is it not better in terms of genetic propagation to focus on maintaining the biosphere and prolonging human existence, or is that unique DNA so much more important than the DNA in common?

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Anonymous 17/09/03(Sun)06:18 No. 13104 ID: d5439c

and another poster:

You are assuming that genes make long term decisions and try to determine the outcome of their strategies.

It is really just a bunch of programmed behaviors that happen to succeed or fail based on the environment.

"Kill wolves and eat those fuckers" works until there aren't any wolves left.

Then some other strategy works better. "Cannibal everyone and eat their brains."

Until a disease kills cannibals and not non-cannibals.

On and on and on in the circle of life.

Anonymous 18/05/13(Sun)19:48 No. 13524 ID: 04954d

Nature ((programmed)) itself so that one can never have too many good things - after a while, the good things must come to an end ; either due to a lack of resources or limited quantity and or some sort of malady/sickness/termination/expiration

Anonymous 18/05/19(Sat)19:36 No. 13534 ID: 1e4c65

Not in the scenarios you propose.
But killing off a species that was harming the biosystem in some way — that I would say was good.

Anonymous 16/11/06(Sun)06:36 No. 12702 ID: 57a468 [Reply]

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What is this, /phi/?

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Anonymous 18/05/13(Sun)22:09 No. 13525 ID: 9a8723

The chair represents the stiff and coldness of the narcissistic man this is shown due to the chair being made out of hard wood.

It could also represent the responsibility a man has to deal with due to his coming of age this means that as the wood changes into the shape of a chair as a more useful and effective product as does the person who becomes more mature and responsible as he changes for the better.

It could also represent strength this is shown by the fact that the chair is made of a hard wood instead of a soft wood. This symbolises strength because it shows that the outer layer of ones soul is crafted not through the soul itself but the people around him turning him into a stronger individual.

Anonymous 18/05/14(Mon)03:05 No. 13526 ID: 6c99e3

A) this is not a chair, it is a photo of a chair delivered online. you cannot discern between imitation and reality.
B) did you take your ideas about chair symbolism from some literary analysis paper?

Anonymous 18/05/19(Sat)19:34 No. 13533 ID: 1e4c65

An electronic copy of an image of a chair.

Plato's Democracy to Tyranny Anonymous 18/04/19(Thu)19:20 No. 13503 ID: 8bdadd [Reply]

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In the United States and other western democracies (see it's in the phrase). We are currently in a degenerate cosmopolitan democracy that values wealth, possessions, and sex over virtue and intellectual pursuits. From here individuals are atomized. They begin to hate their situation and they demand the rule of a tyrant. This explains the phenomena of Trump, the support for Bernie Sanders, and even some of the youths support for Jeremy Corbyn in the UK.

As an American, I was surprised by the vociferous response of virtually any progressive millennial to brexit. I couldn't understand why they cared. Until it dawned on me, we have become so cosmopolitan that people want an all powerful supranational entity to rule over their quasi-bohemian lifestyle.

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Anonymous 18/05/13(Sun)15:35 No. 13522 ID: 9a8723

Its more than that democracy also promotes division it promotes say an us vs them mentality while a monarchy promotes unity between the people. This is why in history Monarchies have shown consistently being more stable than democracies.

Anonymous 18/05/17(Thu)02:24 No. 13528 ID: eea1c2

Monarchy in the modern age would more likely than not )just like most totalitarian dictatorships) would fall at the hands of corruption, the rich would thrive even more than they do today, the lower middle class and the poor would be forced to deal with high prices, the way most monarchs are so stable is the same reason most dictatorships would last, on top of that now you have a populous that know about democracy. Which is why I would think that the problem doesn't lie at the type of government, but at the ignorance of the people to nationalism and pride in their nation (Probably why people don't have that much of a problem with immigrants)
Surely if people wanted to follow and be lead by an all powerful entity, they would follow the what the media says, right?

Anonymous 18/05/19(Sat)18:25 No. 13531 ID: 1e4c65

>implying they don't follow what the media says unconditionally today

Rights Anonymous 17/03/22(Wed)10:09 No. 12857 ID: bfae6f [Reply]

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a. Are rights natural? Or b. products of society/government?

a1. If rights are natural, do they only apply to humans?

a1a. Why do they only apply to humans?

a2. How can rights be natural if life isn't a necessary condition for the universe to exist (meaning if all life were to cease to exist, the universe would still be here)?

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Anonymous 18/04/17(Tue)14:43 No. 13499 ID: 4e144d

What does "natural" mean for you in this case ?

Anonymous 18/04/29(Sun)09:25 No. 13507 ID: 86b897


>familial bonds

Wrong. Read the literature on family bonds

Anonymous 18/05/01(Tue)00:06 No. 13511 ID: 1bbee6

I'm a Calvinist so, no we don't have any rights unless you are one of the chosen people, which you probably aren't.

Anonymous 18/04/11(Wed)03:33 No. 13491 ID: 389733 [Reply]

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what is Immanuel Kant's position on the right to rebel?

Anonymous 18/04/16(Mon)08:44 No. 13497 ID: 4089f6

probably just as wacky as his position that jacking off is worse than suicide

Anonymous 17/11/13(Mon)23:36 No. 13307 ID: ea535a [Reply]

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No single person in significance in all history is noteworthy enough. I'm fucking done. I hate you and I never thought I would hate anyone.

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Anonymous 17/11/23(Thu)04:04 No. 13315 ID: 68c3a8


you came from Tumblr?

Anonymous 18/04/14(Sat)17:27 No. 13496 ID: 4e144d


Anonymous 18/05/01(Tue)00:10 No. 13513 ID: 1bbee6

you sound bitter

do /phi/ even logic? Anonymous 16/10/31(Mon)07:59 No. 12694 ID: 82c3eb [Reply]

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Solve it

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Anonymous 18/04/07(Sat)06:37 No. 13487 ID: f5c31c

==3== seems the most likely to me

Anonymous 18/04/10(Tue)04:16 No. 13490 ID: 5c8c98

how about 3,4 or 5 small triangles fff

Anonymous 18/04/13(Fri)19:41 No. 13495 ID: 3e2951

First column is subtraction, second is addition, betting third is multiplication, so 1.

Does anyone deserve anything? Anonymous 17/10/31(Tue)23:41 No. 13255 ID: a24704 [Reply]

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Do you think people inherently deserve things just for existing?

What I believe:
That you exist doesn't mean I have to buy you a cake or do anything else for you. A favour is a privilege not a right.

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Anonymous 18/03/29(Thu)05:49 No. 13476 ID: 9d4072

What if there is no god or heaven or hell because the devils are all here?

Anonymous 18/05/24(Thu)22:18 No. 13540 ID: 3cf4d5

As >>13325, here is my justification ( although there is already one in my post ) :

- one way to see it is by following Marcus Aurelius's thought : humans make a big family and as such, are made to cooperate with each other ( due to the fact that every human is the same, compared to animals )

- another justification is based on the idea of society, we accept to live together because we want protection against danger, thievery ... , the protection relying on the social link between people, therefore being generous and respectful helps maintain that link and indirectly protect us - being selfish means drawing yourself slightly off society, risking danger)

Anonymous 18/05/24(Thu)22:20 No. 13541 ID: 3cf4d5

In english ?

Anonymous 15/11/16(Mon)06:19 No. 12321 ID: 21c12c [Reply]

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Is there really a right and wrong?

personally I believe that there is none, life is pointless.


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Anonymous 17/07/25(Tue)03:58 No. 13032 ID: 14f7e1

Has anybody here asked OP for clarification? That's the only way to really answer their question.

Anonymous 17/08/14(Mon)19:12 No. 13071 ID: 564822

Morality is subjective. I think the only right and wrong is how well you do you in life. If you are a depressed lolcow everyday that bitches then are most likely in the wrong and if you live life well and have fun they you are in the right. Ya dig?

Anonymous 18/02/16(Fri)04:22 No. 13428 ID: 07300e

> Is there really a right and wrong?

Morals derive from needs of your "tribe" versus needs of you.

> personally I believe that there is none, life is pointless.

You are not currently part of a "tribe" and feel alienated. Join a group of like-minded people to resolve.

Anonymous 18/01/15(Mon)17:07 No. 13418 ID: 492771 [Reply]

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it's always now
phenolology is all there really is
if you aren't a pleb you'll start with Berkley and wake up
we live in a cold machine in search of hot pussy

Anonymous 18/01/15(Mon)17:21 No. 13419 ID: 492771

aesthetic is all that matters

Anonymous 18/01/15(Mon)17:23 No. 13420 ID: 492771

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Pretty good album

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