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The Requests Thread (yes the whole thing) was subject of a DMCA Takedown Notice filed by HEART OF THE DEERNICORN.
We tried to negotiate with the claimant to narrow the scope of the claim, but he did not respond.
Staff will make a new requests thread in a while.
What about removing the ability for threads to be indexed in Google, like certain other chans.
What the actual fuck??!
For fuck sake.
Fuck them and their shitty ass game.
How long is a while? I have PDFs to beg for!
That hipster asshole frequents the coffeeshop my niece works at & he's a hipster asshole to everyone there.
What a world. You'd think it'd be Paizo or Games Workshop or something doing us in, and it ends up being these fuckers.
I honestly thought it's going to be Pinnacle Entertainment that will try to shut the request thread. But Ross... fuckin'... Cowman?!
Waaait a sec
There's a person with a nickname "Deernicorn"
AND a real last name "Cowman"
AHAHAHAHA well, that's already hilarious
Th Wayback Machine has the entire thread saved as of earlier today, so its only missing whatever was posted after it was saved.
The last thing posted was Tuna asking about starting a Heroic Maps Trove.
As much as they yell "no piracy" on the public front, big companies who aren't run by complete idiots are fully aware that piracy does them more good than bad.
And if they are actually run by idiots who want to charge at piracy with blinders on, AND still didn't manage to bother these sharing sites, they're either double idiots or I don't know what.
>>As much as they yell "no piracy" on the public front, big companies who aren't run by complete idiots are fully aware that piracy does them more good than bad.
That is debatable. Effects of piracy on sales are hard to assess.
I could not tell how many pirated copies of say Pathfinder books are around compared to Paizo's hardcopy and PDF sales. I agree with you, companies are rarely run by complete idiots and so they know, people who turn to piracy in the first place will not suddenly buy products just because their sources dried up. On the other hand, it is equally to tell, how many people buy products because they read a pirated copy. Giving PDFs away for free worked for Eclipse Phase and Posthuman Studios but that does not mean it will work for another Company.
Personally, I think most companies turn a blind eye on piracy as long as they make a decent profit.
Kick that bitch in the snatch for me
Organize a boycott of buying things from Heart of the Deericorn. No more "Fall of Magic", pirated or otherwise. No profit, no company, no cease and desist letters. Of course in this process you are damaging the independent sellers of the hobby we love.... so...
I agree with "No. 120598" though, knowing the effect of piracy on the industry is hard. There are no easy answers.
I have downloaded tons of shit I have never bought... but the operative word there is shit. It was shit, which was why I have never played it or bought it, and it gets deleted as soon as I realize either the system or world content is garbage.
What I can say is I have never played a game of anything from a pirated copy. If the game is good, I want a hard copy of the game in my hands so that I can play it. Shadows of the DemonLord, Fantasy Age, and Cypher all spring to mind as things I bought this year ONLY because I read the pirated copy loved it and bought it.
Big names though like Savage Worlds and D&D 5E, they get no help from piracy as I never think, hey I should check out if D&D is good before I buy it... yeah, never happens. Its D&D, the name says I buy it because inevitably I am going to play it somewhere.
Does anyone have a PDF of How to Make Your Company Popular, by Ross Cowman? Guy is clearly an expert at engaging the community.
You don't need to boycott: if he's so angry it's because nobody buy his gimmick of a game.
Could we first get that game without missing components?
Hey - could we possibly get a link to the wayback machine version of the pg - I can't work out how to get to it (I use a custom url to show me the last x posts in bookmark)
I would also like said link
Well...this is slightly annoying...
I don't want to sound like an idiot, but I'm not hip deep in the terminology and such.
Can someone explain to me what the hell is going on and who is this fucking clown that he can just take down the whole thread?
An old guy
Wow. None of his retarded ass looking shit was even requested.
hope a new thread is posted soon.
not really sure where all the churlish outrage is coming from....thieves in the real world get shut down and-or have to move around and set up shop somewheres else all the time.
First, Piracy and Theft are not the same thing. It's not up for discussion, they're not by definition. Second, you don't understand our "churlish outburst"? You must not be from around here. I wouldn't be surprised if you're a plant. Lastly, so help me fuck, those, I believe all of two, Deernicrap books will be found floating around and, I wouldn't be shocked in the least, if they get shared so much that the guy never, ever, makes one red cent off his piece of crap books. In fact, it would not surprise me one bit if someone made it their mission, for no small amount time, to share with the world, literally everything the man has published, with out him ever seeing a dime of profits. Greater then any Great Old One, Hotter then the fires of Mt. Doom and Petty as a 5th Gen Elder's war on an Anarchs...is a Nerd's Rage. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.
I'll pop the popcorn. :)
Request everything the man has ever published. EVERYTHING.(please no)
It's shit. And I don't mean *the* shit. Some emo-artsy-independent-feelgod crap. Not worth downloading time.
This makes me wonder what the perceived benefits of filing a DMCA are.
Pirates will share his content regardless, I doubt anyone here is going to buy his game now, and people outside of 7chan won't know or care.
Maybe one or two people would have played his game for free? Surely that's a good thing if it's a good product?
Oh well, at least he's getting publicity. And you know what they say about publicity...
>>Piracy and Theft are not the same thing
This is absolutely true, with the obvious caveat that you're referring to computer piracy.
Computer piracy involves distributing copies of a work. The originals are untouched, and the owners of those originals still have them to distribute/sell/etc.
Theft involves depriving the owner of the item. If I steal your car, you don't have your car anymore. If I managed to download a copy of your car (I loved that MPAA anti-piracy ad, remember it?) it's not theft - You still have it.
Source: I've been through the court system on larceny charges regarding cars. In more than one jurisdiction.
Does anyone have the high quality scenario Mansion of Madness in pdf, from Chaosium for Call of Cthulhu? I brought the softcover book in the amazon site, but they don't have the pdf. I saw today, in the Chaosium site, that they (the Chaosium) give the pdf for free if anyone buy the book in their site. Help please!
Thanks for posting the wayback link - much appreciated.
You don't notice many things do you?
After seeing what happened & reading the cause of these events, I can only surmise that the 'percieved benefit' of that lifeform's actions is the fleeting & temporary sensation of what they will mistake as power over something they have no concept of.
Kind of similar to a spoiled child urinating into the flowing stream of a large waterfall & believing that they made the water defy gravity & flow in the opposite direction.
Of course, this is only my opinion.
>>In fact, it would not surprise me one bit if someone made it their mission, for no small amount time, to share with the world, literally everything the man has published, with out him ever seeing a dime of profits.
Which would be counterproductive since there would be at least one person actually buying his books. *hides*
I think I don't. What's the deal?
Ohhh, I see now. I'm a distracted person. I have serious problems.
Fuck off. I hope your wife takes everything from you in the divorce.
Now I'm sorry but what you just posted doesn't sound like any legalese bullshit that you would normally hear , in fact some of it doesn't even seem to be grammatically correct for fuck sake...
Legal threats posted publically on the site will result in bans. Yes, even fake ones. If you have a real problem with us, you can forward it to our email address where we can address your concerns directly.
In addition, the usual rules regarding raiding apply. Retaliation leads to more retaliation, and it doesn't help.
I Second The Popcorn!
Well, are we getting a new request thread or is that it?
Probably in a month or so.
They will still run the site down. It was suggested before to keep 7chan to few registered trusted members. Nobody listened.
If you only have a few registered trusted members, who will clean or donate?
Everybody calm down. Just move over to the 8chan /tg/ Requests thread for the time being. Same thing, nice folks, it will serve as a great substitute for the time being. See you there!
Link? I tried looking for it but I find 8chan to be a mess
What a idiot.
What an idiotic idea.
Go back to Idiocyville.
it should be "an idiot" not "a idiot".
Pay attention to your english class before you join the bickering.
Oh, yes, your English majesty.
Tell more of us the proper way to live, think, and use 7chan!
(Oooo, look! An Oxford comma!)
Your pride hurts?
Study more rather than whining. It will save you from embarrassment, Really! Try it!!!
Flaunting your Ph.D. in Assholery?
i request fall of magic
want to see what so shit hot about it
Improper capitalization of "really" and decidedly nonstandard use of triple exclamation marks.
This is B- work.
The author of Fall of Magic has stated on his twitter account, "For the record I only DCMI'd Fall of Magic, not the whole thread. Taking it down was the Admin's decision. As if I had any control over that". I know it's likely he didn't completely follow through with due process to clarify that, but can't this be taken as legal proof, and restore the request thread?
Whoah, and now it seems to be nuked as well. Right after someone requested That One Descent of Sorcery game too.
I THINK NOT
OMG so much troll
What about this? It's true?
The guy is a cuck who enjoys publicity amont other cucks. When you can't be homo or of color you need to work hard for your fashionable victimhood.
Naturally, broken pride leads to insults, where less educated people mostly resort to when embarrassed in public.
Understandable because that is what they only know of and will ever learn from their unwavering pride and constant slacking around.
Well count yourself in.
>>The guy is a cuck who enjoys publicity amont other cucks. When you can't be homo or of color you need to work hard for your fashionable victimhood.
Comparing the lot of you to wolves is flattering, considering most of you fa/tg/uys are barely capable of lifting your own weight.
Did people think we were going to get free stuff forever?
Do people really think April 6, 2017 is the final day of unauthorized digital distribution?
Cowman defeated all of you with a single small cut.
I've got an idea so crazy it might just work: why don't we start our own request thread.
Because it won't be pinned.
Doesn't matter, people can just bookmark the link for easy access.
This is a great idea! JUST DO IT!
My vote is that we get back up asap. I've got a lot of books I am looking for, and a few I am looking to donate.
I'll do it if mods won't take it down or ban me for creating it. Right now that's the only thing stopping me. If admin and mods ok it i'll do it.
Oh dude you shouldn't be afraid of mods. You should be afraid of Ross fucking Cowman!
New 8chan Requests thread
Just use that til mods put up new one.
Just like they will use CTRL-F?
Why? Is he gonna whimper on Twitter some more?
"Whaaa... I was thrown to the wolves, those evil mods on 7chan!"
Control F? That's sorcery.
Someone's itching to get burned at the stake.
The claimant clearly DMCA'd the entire thread, and sent a second email specifically asking the thread to be removed after we asked him for file URLs instead of the thread URL. He never mentioned Fall of Magic until we removed the thread. We have discussed this with him after a further exchange of emails, and included to him a full timeline of emails, with pictures and SMTP timestamps and IDs. We believe we have settled this matter with him.
As for why the new requests thread is taking so long, we're currently debating rule and policy changes and a guide on how to make proper DMCAs so this shit doesn't happen again. On the one hand, we like the newly vibrant /tg/ community. On the other hand, most of us have jobs and shit now and don't need any additional liabilities sneaking up from behind us.
Just my 2 cents but he should have just DMCA'd the link source, and not simply the place where a link shows up.
I can see a valid DMCA if it was an attachment to the post itself, but it wasn't.
But just to be clear admin if someone did start a request thread, would you be forced to ban them for it as of right now?
Ross Cowman. The boy who cried wolf.
Ross Cowman. The Olympia hipster who cried.
Does the request thread on 8chan work for you people?
Lately, it repeatedly gives me the 404 page for days and doesn't appear in /tg's catalog, no idea what's up.
Thanks for clarifying Admin. :)
I'd buy you one of those fancy RPG scrolls in return, but I here the author's a real jerk. ;)
That hard, huh?
Oh come on, you expect someone who can chan skip to be able to read a thread? Especially 7chan? Ha ha!
It's out, finally. It's up on rpgnow also.
Someone do what needs to be done.
Why isn't that someone you?
Is it wrong to want to organize revenge? I presume admins would not grant permission for such...
You rolled a Nat. 20. Critical Hit!
When that was posted, the other thread was still up, I supposed the link was to that one, not to a new one.
Perhaps not, but may I suggest 'Living well?'
But then Cowman will just cry some more about wolves on social media and we'll be back at square one.
Make a better game and distribute it for free. Or sell it but don't be a whiny cow when people share it.
I just read Cowman's book and it was worthless, whoever said it wasn't worth the bandwidth was right, i isn't. I deleted it afterwards, i can tell you, if this was given to me for free i wouldn't accept it even then.
Because, in the Third Act, Rigoletto takes his revenge upon the Duke by living well.
Was there truly nothing in it worth using?
Was it a concept failure or an execution failure?