Sure is Counter-Strike in here.

I'd go with the Five-seveN

>>8304
.22 caliber... lol, if you use inch measurements its .224

And you shouldnt, itll confuse the issue, because the 5.7x28mm, while similar in size, is not a .22 round.

5.7x28mm (32gr AP FMJ) - 716 m/s and 534 J
.22 (32gr CP HP) - 500 m/s and 259 J

>> Clip

>>8305

Well this is disappointing...
Hey does my Desert Eagle look clogged to you?

Deagle, because you can side-step with it, and dodge bullets. It can also penetrate helmets, even from a long distance. Just crouch with it, and try to snipe.

/css

>clip

Thanks for making easy to not take you seriously.

Deagle for coolness, Five-seveN for everything else.

Deagle because of penetration factor when it comes to hitting targets on the other side of normal walls or windshields. Plus when you run out of ammo makes a good club to pistol whip people.

>>8364
what he said

Desert Eagle is hot garbage I'd rather shoot a glock than that.....

I want a .50AE deagle engraved with "bad muthafucker" on the side.

But realistically i'm going with the FN Five-seveN 'cos it's got a higher magazine capacity and less recoil. Seems lighter too. Based on OP's pic, the FN weighs .75kg, whereas the IMI weighs 2.00kg. Pretty heavy. My guess is that 1kg ≈ 2.5lb. So yeah.

And how about this debate:

F2000 vs XM8.

5-7 designed for females to fire is this true?

The FN Five-Seven and the 5.7mm round were designed to defeat body armor and hard targets, then tumble end over end like a rifle bullet. It does a better job of this in its sub-machine gun cousin, the P90, but the pistol, with the right ammunition, will still (according to the manufacturers) fully penetrate a Level II Kevlar vest.

The Desert Eagle is just an over-glorified target pistol, and most of the glorifying is done by people who have never shot one. That's the best I can say about it, since at worst, its become something of a penis extension for those looking to get their "street cred" in the thug culture. Magnum Research knows this, too -- why else do you think they make them gold plated?

My vote is clearly in favor of the Five-Seven.

>>8437
Never fired a Deagle but the impression I get is that it's essentially a novelty gun: if you want to actually hit anything, you'd better do it on your first shot.

As the previous poster mentioned, the Five-Seven is probably more useful for everything except perhaps enhancing your gangsta street cred and e-peen.

Wouldn't want either. My preference for a hand gun would be a Glock 20, holds 15 and can even be increased to 17 rounds of 10mm ammo with the installation of a +2 round mag extension.(Thats 18 with one chambered) The 10mm also has stopping power comparable to a .357, excellent overall sidearm.

I like this idea for a thread. So to keep the ball rolling, I'll supply us with our next contenders. And for this metaphorical arms race, I present you with a rivalry as old as the weapons themselves...

The M16 versus the AK-47.

They both have their strong points and shortcomings. Let's start with a rundown of each one.

M16

Pros:
- Highly accurate
- Superior effective range
- Very controllable
- Light weight

Cons:
- Unreliable without regular maintenance
- Tendency to overheat if subjected to sustained automatic fire
- 5.56x45mm round is a poor "brush buster"; easily deflected by leaves and other minor obstacles on its way to the target, and becomes susceptible to windage when traveling over large distances

AK-47

Pros:
- Superior firepower; 7.62x39mm round is a better "brush buster" and much less susceptible to windage
- To-hell-and-back reliability; will function flawlessly even under the most harrowing circumstances
- Easy to learn; its few moving parts make field stripping fast and simple
- Performs very well on fully automatic

Cons:
- Short effective range
- Too "big and clunky" for some people; full stock configuration is difficult to maneuver in tight spaces
- Wood furniture commonly seen on them has a tendency to become waterlogged in wet conditions, further complicating this problem; as a result, the wood will begin to rot

The stage is set. May the best gun win.

>>8456
clearly the AK

>>8463
I'll second that...

How about this, MP7 vs P90 both PDW, rivals and with the same purpose...

>>8456
It's always going to be the AK. A better comparison would the the AK-47 and the current service L85, which has almost exactly the same pros and cons as given for the M16.

However, the L85 does the pros profoundly better and suffers from the cons a lot less. Even then, the practicality of the AK is going to give it a run for its money.

>>8481

This is much closer, part of me still wants to say AK but the L85A2 wins on aesthetics.

I thought the l85A2, was said to be an awful and unreliable weapon. And were going to be replaced with the G36 so the brits said.

>>8494
The A1 was completely fucking awful. However, after H+K made some changes (which may be where you got the G36 idea from) it was turned into the A2: which is possibly the finest service AR in the first world and certainly the most accurate.

So yeah, 'the Brits' never said that.

>>8503

Errrrrr the L85A1 was Lee Enfield . Where did you get the information tat the A2 had anything to do with H&K?

>>8516
The L85A1 was Lee Enfield yes. However it was pretty rubbish and had many flaws (e.g. magazine would fall out if the rifle was placed on your back, stuff like that). So the army got HK in to fix these flaws and create the L85A2. The L86 LSW is the larger SAW version of the L85A2 (but it has a standard stanag 30-round mag, not the stupid drum mag in MW2). All these rifles come under the SA80 name. In general they're pretty good rifles which can easily outperform an M4 or G36, but they are also pretty damn heavy (L85A2 weighs more than an M16).

>>8456
Hey cock face, we have advances in firearms since then. The HK 416/417, great reliability in a M16 style package. The AK-103, a polymer AK that has improvements and increases accuracy (from what I have read though so I cannot confirm or deny this honestly).

>>8548
Yes, I'm well aware that they're constantly coming out with new and improved versions of old designs, but both the original M16 and AK-47 are still in service. This is especially true for the AK-47, which I predict will still be in service in some places for at least another hundred or so years.

>>8447
>Glock 20
I love you.

with the M16A4, most of the cons have been reduced, and colt makes them AR's good. the AK is still a good AR, and with the newer variants such as the AK-101(7?) black polymer plastic eliminates the wood rot problem, also better rifling in barrel produces better accuracy.
final judgement....M16, just can't beat that 3 burst

I got the duece-duece duece

Five-Seven all the way.

Btw, Op is an idiot... It´s not a clip, it´s a magazine!!

deagle for fire power 5-7 for amo but i love the deagle so ima going with that

>>8641
No, you are the idiot, its a clip if in a pistol.

AK-47 no contest
Reliable, simple to clean and maintain, better gun
M-16 is one of the worst assault rifles ever made, prone to jamming, only used by US army because they are cheap and easy to make

A clip is used to load magazines. My best example a stripper (clip) used to load the magazine, so yer the dumb ass. there an old saying if i know yer dumb and you know yer dumb and you don't open your mouth others wont know yer dumb. ps stfu

Op's picture says magazine give him credit for that

To many f'ing trolls here.

you could get ak 107 with 3 round burst and semi

/k/>>>>>>>/w/
1/10
troll harder

>>8463
I lold goodluck hitting something with that
does anyone here even fired a gun???

>does anyone here even fired a gun???

I've actually fired both the Five-Seven & the Desert Eagle. I'm not really big on ether.

The only thing the Eagle is maybe practical for is hunting, maybe, other then that, it's a rang toy. If I needed a large caliber handgun, I'd go with a large caliber revolver, better ergonomics.

The Five-Seven doesn't point naturally, and I'd like a little heaver bullet, even in a bottlenecked cartridge.

>>8416
xm8 is a sexy gun, and has more variability.

"only one vote per weapon per person"

lol

i vote for 5-7

then i will vote for Deegle

the 5-7

because it's smaller, and I don't want kickback I want to aim and hit my target, I'm not saying both can't do that, but I'm saying that my main concern is that, and a lack of kickback pain or whatever

The Five-Seven because I can aim again quicker after the first shot and put a second one in the target quicker if I miss or the first doesn't take him down, though personally I prefer a 9mm Beretta to both of these.

F-N if I could get a fore grip on it and full-auto capability.
Well. I'd prefer it over a desert eagle anyway. I've not shot too many handguns, but there is a noticeable difference between a .22 and a .357. If you could compare the kickback of those rounds with the two guns in question.

As per my other posts, this is my disclaimer explaining my inability to put together thoughts in a way that's pleasing to the eye.

>>10245
C'mon, you trolls arent even trying anymore. Back in my day, we trolled much better.

I would have to go with the Five-Seven.

Also, your lead image is missing an important factor: muzzle velocity. A .22 caliber bullet can do serious damage when 20 of them are pumped into someone at a high velocity.

>>10256
And you're missing the fact that a .22 cartidge doesn't have the capacity for powder to propel it at high velocity. So... fail. Try a .204 Ruger or .22 Hornet instead.

>>10274
>fact that a .22 cartridge doesn't
He never said "cartridge".

>"A .22 caliber bullet"

>>10276
Sigh. Okay, no cartridge capable of holding a .22 LR, .22 Short, or .22 Magnum.... see previous post.

>>10280
A 22 magnum and a 223 Remington is .224" in diameter.
A 5.7x28mm cartridge is .224" in diameter.
A 22 S,L,LR is .223" in diameter.
I don't think he meant a 22 plinking cartridge.
Regardless... Ridiculous thread...

I'm looking at this thread, and I'm thinking: "Wow, what a stupid bunch of gamer faggots"

>>Clip

>>.22

>>Bullshit videogame 'cool gun' vs other bullshit videogame gun.

C'mon. Read some books on the subject you dumb fucks. M16 vs AK47? What is this, the fucking 1960s?! Totally moronic stuff like this stops this subforum from ever being reasonable and educated discussion.

Also, fuck.

>>10334
Sage fail -.-