Hello /w/. This guide is intended to point you in the direction of buying your first handgun. After reading this you should have a good idea of what form factor to look for when you start shopping. I encourage everyone to do their own research. I won't tell you what brand or model to buy or what you should have your handgun chambered in and I'd really rather no one else did either. First of all, If you have never held a handgun or any firearm in your life do not buy anything until you have been taught properly. Gun ranges usually offer basic safety courses but if you know someone who owns a firearm or two and has some experience, ask them to teach you. These are the most important things you will learn: You do not ever point a firearm even if it's unloaded at someone or something unless you intend to kill or destroy. You do not put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire at your target and know what lies beyond it. Trigger discipline is the most important part of handling a firearm. The ultimate safety is your trigger finger. Modern firearms do not go off by themselves. External Safeties exist to protect you from fucking up and causing a negligent discharge, nothing else. Once you are confident in your ability to properly and safely use a handgun and are ready to buy one, you should decide what it will be used for. Different handguns fit different roles. For strictly home defense, I think most people agree that a 12 gauge shotgun with low recoil 00 buckshot is ideal. They are much cheaper than handguns and are much more effective. It is very easy to miss with a handgun in a tense situation. With a shotgun it is much more difficult to miss your target at typical indoor distances. For concealed carry, an automatic handgun that does not have a manual safety is ideal. You shouldn't have to worry about switching off a safety when your life is in danger. You might consider a revolver for their reliability. It's entirely up to you and what you are comfortable with. If you want a handgun strictly for plinking, buy something in .22 Long rifle. The least expensive .22LR ammunition is on average around 0.035 cents a round. If you want something a little m Message too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>9088 Yes, there is a shit load of companies that make the 1911, including some modern versions.
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with proper support and maintaining? anything new and most things old. hook you up? no. long slide is long
Hello /w/, I'm looking for a .22 pistol or rifle that is more powerful than most models; could you offer any assistance? ITT: Powerful .22's
>>9134 Actually if you want to get technical a .22 is .223 inches in diameter. But considering the OP is half retarded and abandoned their thread right after posting it I'd say none of this shit matters.
>>9135 I don't always have easy access to a computer, kind sir. >>9052 I don't play first person shooting games; only RPG's. Which means that I indeed know basically nothing about guns, but not due to any game. And to those who actually gave decent, non-hostile and non-idiotic advice, I thank you. I guess this can now just be a general thread for discussing .22s, I have nonthing else to ask. Cheers.
I love my Ruger Mk III
heavily considering a glock or XD. i'm leaning towards the XD because of a fully-supported chamber. should I get it? what do you guys think? in b4 LOLHS2000
>>9177 >Yes, I agree that glocks are ugly as fuck. Do you guys really think so? I always thought they were kind of sexy looking. The action, the grip, the symmetrical look; it's beautiful. It's like if the Colt 1911 was a WWII paratrooper, the Glock would be a Starship Trooper. Now a Luger on the other hand, those look kind of whacky. They kind of remind me of aardvarks.
>>9179 glocks are about as sexy as a G11 or XM29.
>>9179 >>9180 It's totally arbitrary. My favorite looking gun is the L86, precisely because it's ugly - in an industrial, angular way.
the weirdest-looking guns you have ever seen
>>9153 >>9155 >>9166 >They don't notice the full auto sear at back of slide >Lol
Zip guns are to gun nuts as improvised bongs are to stoners. You know if it were possible to make a zip gun out of an apple, you all would have done so by now.
the shit is this thing? i said when i first saw it.
are butterfly knives effective self defense weapons?
>>8962 Butterfly knives are neat and have shock value if you know how to use one, but they break easily.
>>9164 >they break easily Do they? I knew someone who has the Benchmade one and it's been holding up for years but he just uses it to flip around and do tricks not for what you'd use a regular knife for
>>9165 Every hinge is a considerable structural weak point, compared to a full-tang fixed-blade knife which doesn't really have any.
So I've been looking around to buy my first gun (I had a bunch as a kid, but my parents sold them when I moved out. Since then I've just used friends guns on occasion). Anyways, the Mosin-Nagant has been recommended by multiple people both online and in person. I've been looking around online, and it seems that the two most common models are the M38 and the M44. Still, I really don't know anything about the gun, and I want to know more about it, its pro's and con's, and where I should buy it and how to know I'm getting a good deal.
Okay, since you say you've fired a gun before, the Nagant isn't out of the question. First off, is not friendly, is gun! Built pretty simple, but no considerations for user comfort. The trigger is heavy, and not very smooth, and it kicks like a sob. Mine is pretty accurate, but I've heard that can vary. It's very, very punchy and loud. The biggest con I've found is 7.69x54R is harder than hell to find, I have to get it in the next city over. I paid $400 for mine off the internets. TradeEx, it's in Canada, if you are, they're a decent company to order from. All told, I love this gun.
>>9158 400 for how much ammo? Is it surplus or new?
>>9163 Sorry, meant $400 for the gun, arsenal refinished, so it's in great shape. Ammo is about $20 for 10 new manufacture soft points. Can pay a bit less for milsurp FMJs. For a while there there was a 800 rounds for $250 deal, but that sold out way too damn fast.
Anybody got the "Abusive" version of this target?
Hey, /w/. tldr; I want to learn how to use a gun and am looking for some basic advice. Grew up in Manhattan, my parents were vehemently anti-guns, as was my entire family except my uncle. 20 now, I've always been sort of interested, and I want to learn how. A few basic questions: 1. Friend of mine is recommending I start with an Mosin Nagant M-91. Any input? I'm only interested in learning how to fire a rifle right now. 2. I'm going out with my uncle to pick up general gun etiquette and safety tips so I can teach myself without potentially endangering anyone/myself. I aspire to eventually go hunting. How long would you say it takes most people to be proficient enough to go without being baggage or anything? We wouldn't be hunting anything really dangerous when I end up going, it'd be deer most likely. Thanks, /w/. Message too long. Click here to view the full text.
I agree. You may also wish to pick up a Ruger model if you want to get into shooting handguns, too. A good tip is to rifine your grip and shooting technique with a .22 handgun until you can fire it very rapidly and very accurately (read; around four shots per second) without the muzzle rising at all. At that point, you will be well prepared to move up to more useful calibers, like 9mm and .45ACP. Personally, my dad knew both me and my brother would eventually be shooting 1911's. So instead of Ruger Mk.II/III's, he bought Ruger 22/45's. Less common than the Mk.II/III, but it has roughly the same controls as a 1911, and was done so on purpose. Word of advice; Never listen to anything anyone says if they are either posting on /k/, or have little experience in taking serious classes. I have more than a decade of shooting experience behind me, a number of handgun trophies, and have taken some of the best classes money can buy (front sight and blackwater can suck it, my instructor has to FIX the shit they teach). Watch for my posts, I've been doing this a whole lot longer than most, and I usually give quite helpful tips. I will be of a little less help with rifles though, especially bolt action. My area of expertise lies more in the realm of short range pistol shooting than making sub-MOA groups at 200 yards.
>>9116 You are already an expert then, the nagant has more like 3-4 inch groups, and is so long it takes very little practice to get that good. Definitely not a competition rifle.
>>9118 Read The Fucking Post. This dude doesn't mention the Nagant. Also, the Nagant marksman or sniper variants ARE pretty damn accurate. The quality of the bore varies with date and location of manufacture as well.
Hey /w/, I want to see your photos of interesting and obscure weapons. First, The CIA Deer Gun. Basically a 9mm Liberator made out of cast aluminum.
>>9143 Not necessarily. In order to have a fixed stock you have to have a 16inch barrel to get around the National Firearms Act. This is done by manufactures so they can use existing pistol receiver parts already in production to expand their sales base.