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Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/10/26(Wed)10:01 No. 3905 ID: 4c1a8e [Reply] Stickied

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For growing and shit or whatever I present to you:


Put in whatever resources that fit in here, whether it's from wikipedia, youtube, some university, or where ever. Just remember to keep it within the board's guidelines and rules.
Use it or lose it, faggots.

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Anonymous 15/07/21(Tue)20:27 No. 12250 ID: 1e9d00

American Nihilist Underground Society
"Nihilism, Futurist Traditionalism and Conservationism"

I have found this to be a great positive influence on my life, not just philosophically/abstractly or in practical life matters, but also in the other things the site introduced me to. Got me into Nietzsche, Burroughs, and some pretty awesome metal bands I'd probably never have had heard of.

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This thread is for discussion of the validity of religion(s) and arguments for and against the existence of god/gods.

Any other new posts about this subject will be deleted, or locked and referred to this one.

New threads about religious concepts that play inside their own ruleset are allowed, and we kindly ask that you refrain from turning those well meaning threads into arguments about religion as a whole.

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Anonymous 18/01/21(Sun)23:54 No. 13423 ID: 2fadff

>When you accept the existence of a force greater than humanity you absolve yourself of responsibility
>not believing in determinism
>not realizing pretty much everything is beyond our control
Congratulations, you're just as stupid as the people you're decrying.

READ THIS BEFORE POSTING YOU PILE OF FAGGOTS Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/09/09(Fri)04:51 No. 2371 ID: 175f07 [Reply] Locked Stickied

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Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/12/04(Sun)05:06 No. 4980 ID: 4c1a8e

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Darwin and his mental retardation Anonymous 18/02/22(Thu)09:43 No. 13431 ID: 44a1c4 [Reply]

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>A conclusion that two (or more) genes or proteins are homologous is a conjecture, not an experimental fact. We would be able to know for a fact that genes are homologous only if we could directly explore their common ancestor and all intermediate forms. Since there is no fossil record of these extinct forms, a decision on homology between genes has to be made on the basis of the similarity between them, the only observable variable that can be expressed numerically and correlated with probability.

>Taung Child's skull not human-like

How can anyone seriously believe in "evolution" when it all is based on a incomplete fossil record, that proves nothing, and comparative genetics that's just conjectures.

Fedora tippers are grasping at straws.

The most important advice i can give DotAddicts+Anonimus 17/12/27(Wed)15:49 No. 13401 ID: aeb2d6 [Reply]

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Learned from experience.... terrible ones, people were just not meant to live together.

Never, ever ever ever, pursue a relationship. It is never worth it.

Hire a prostitute but dont pretend its more than that.

Anonymous 18/01/12(Fri)09:21 No. 13412 ID: 42dc73

This. Love doesn't exist, stop looking for it.

Anonymous 18/01/12(Fri)20:27 No. 13413 ID: f027eb

nah, like, love exists, ive experienced it firsthand. but it fades. ive also experienced this. with a lot of work from both partues or maybe some really special connection it may be able to work but in general yeah its a thing but life long love is exceedingly rare.

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Anonymous 16/12/24(Sat)23:39 No. 12763 ID: 0f36a6 [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]

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Why are atheists so obsessed with aliens and other conspiracy theories? There is literally no credible evidence for their existence. Is it because they are immature manchildren?


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>Coco Bandicoot 18/02/14(Wed)21:32 No. 13426 ID: f5c7bd


Anonymous 18/02/15(Thu)12:42 No. 13427 ID: 86440b

He probably should go and see a therapist for those delusions.

Anonymous 18/02/21(Wed)16:06 No. 13429 ID: 3f5dbb

It's hard to believe there are people that actually think there are aliens that will invade Earth. To everybody else this is just schizophrenic ramblings.

There isn't enough tin foil in this world to protect them from these imaginary threats. So sad that these people won't get professional help.

Anonymous 15/11/16(Mon)06:19 No. 12321 ID: 21c12c [Reply]

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Is there really a right and wrong?

personally I believe that there is none, life is pointless.


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Anonymous 17/07/25(Tue)03:58 No. 13032 ID: 14f7e1

Has anybody here asked OP for clarification? That's the only way to really answer their question.

Anonymous 17/08/14(Mon)19:12 No. 13071 ID: 564822

Morality is subjective. I think the only right and wrong is how well you do you in life. If you are a depressed lolcow everyday that bitches then are most likely in the wrong and if you live life well and have fun they you are in the right. Ya dig?

Anonymous 18/02/16(Fri)04:22 No. 13428 ID: 07300e

> Is there really a right and wrong?

Morals derive from needs of your "tribe" versus needs of you.

> personally I believe that there is none, life is pointless.

You are not currently part of a "tribe" and feel alienated. Join a group of like-minded people to resolve.

Does anyone deserve anything? Anonymous 17/10/31(Tue)23:41 No. 13255 ID: a24704 [Reply]

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Do you think people inherently deserve things just for existing?

What I believe:
That you exist doesn't mean I have to buy you a cake or do anything else for you. A favour is a privilege not a right.

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Anonymous 17/12/03(Sun)09:27 No. 13334 ID: 27723a

>respect and generosity
>as they are fellow human beings

Anonymous 17/12/29(Fri)01:10 No. 13404 ID: 562e68

The first asserts without evidence, so the second dismisses without evidence. I would be interested in hearing >>13325 argument for respect and generosity.

>you live in a complex society
This. While I agree with >>13310, the term 'right' is misused. One does not have inalienable rights; one has only been protected by a piece of paper which has established certain niceties. Every thing I consume, from oxygen to houses, (the sole exception perhaps being the digital (but not really, see: Slashdot Effect)) deprives another of something else. While I would like to live in a society that preserves me in a pleasantness (See: Rawls), the code of Omerta has always fucked with me:

"Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both, for a wounded man will shall say to his assailant, 'If I live, I will kill you. If I die, you are forgiven' -- such is the rule of honour"

Anonymous 18/01/07(Sun)10:11 No. 13409 ID: c380de

>The first asserts without evidence, so the second dismisses without evidence.
Quid pro quo or ex nihilo nihil fit?

Anonymous 18/01/15(Mon)17:07 No. 13418 ID: 492771 [Reply]

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it's always now
phenolology is all there really is
if you aren't a pleb you'll start with Berkley and wake up
we live in a cold machine in search of hot pussy

Anonymous 18/01/15(Mon)17:21 No. 13419 ID: 492771

aesthetic is all that matters

Anonymous 18/01/15(Mon)17:23 No. 13420 ID: 492771

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Pretty good album

Anonymous 16/08/31(Wed)03:45 No. 12662 ID: 1cc955 [Reply]

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About free will.

Are you reading this text voluntarily? My personal guess is, that many will instinctively answer with yes. In German the adjective „voluntarily“ is translated to „freiwillig“, which means „with free will“ or more literal „free willy“.
Bad jokes aside, the definition of doing something voluntarily, is taking action according to your own free will.
Now why I am focusing on this is, because I want to explore what it actually means to do something voluntarily, along the axis of determinism and free will.

Let’s assume you answered yes to the question of reading this text voluntarily.
And let’s assume our brains do function deterministically.
That would mean, you just had an illusion about having a free will.
The illusion, that you did have a choice, not to read this text this far. Some unknown law, which we try to approximate in the natural sciences, is entirely responsible for what you just did, including the feeling of doing it voluntarily.
It also means, that if you were able to go back in time, every time you did do so, the world and the universe would develop exactly the way they have always been destined to. Including you, reading this text, over and over again. Like a clockwork turning back and forth.
Consciously experiencing a movie that doesn’t feel like a movie but real.
Being aware of this fact also means, that one of the characteristics of this deterministic system is, that it can understand itself.
Let’s have a look at it understanding itself.
If the voluntary guy exists in this deterministic system, his thoughts are part of this system and his conscious experience of having acted voluntarily describes the system in the same way, as an experience of not having done so, would.
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Anonymous 17/10/31(Tue)23:30 No. 13254 ID: a24704


U have free will. But u r not free. U r in voluntary servitude. DotAddictsAnonimus 17/12/27(Wed)16:09 No. 13402 ID: aeb2d6

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Do u go to work bcuz u want to or bcuz if u dont then ppl with guns will come and violently force u from ur home?


Your lifespan is someones currency. So lets say OK this guy is probably going to generate 1 million dollars in his lifetime. They create a stock certificate for him, using his Name when he is born. This is a negotiable instrument. So someone buys that.

Now its not his fault he has no idea. He thinks he is free but he cannot choose to not go to work one day or he will be on the street.

It doesnt matter if someone claims to own you. You have a soul with free will, but no control over what happens to you. So its not on you, it is their great injustice!

But you do have free will, youre not free tho :3

Anonymous 17/12/27(Wed)23:58 No. 13403 ID: 16ecde


> violently force u from ur home?

No, where I live it is very hard at times for a landlord to force people out of their rented places, even if they haven't paid for months and months. So no, no one will show up with guns and force you from your home.

You can choose to not work, there are plenty of folks who couch surf, and travel across the country, and do other things. Might not be the life everyone enjoys, but it is an option if you so choose.

> He thinks he is free but he cannot choose to not go to work one day or he will be on the street.

There are folks who are making sixty thousand dollars a year living on the street. Because other people are suckers and fall for their game and drop money into a cup. Sounds pretty harsh. More than I make.

> but no control over what happens to you.

Sure you do, but most people refuse to stand up for themselves. They choose to let the system abuse them.
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