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Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/10/26(Wed)10:01 No. 3905 ID: 4c1a8e [Reply] Stickied
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For growing and shit or whatever I present to you:

THE BIG STICKIED THREAD OF PHILOSOPHY RESOURCES



Put in whatever resources that fit in here, whether it's from wikipedia, youtube, some university, or where ever. Just remember to keep it within the board's guidelines and rules.
Use it or lose it, faggots.


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Fun funforyou 15/12/28(Mon)03:05 No. 12383 ID: 537707

cool




Anonymous ## Mod ## 12/02/02(Thu)05:26 No. 5920 ID: 4fb7fa [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts] Stickied
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This thread is for discussion of the validity of religion(s) and arguments for and against the existence of god/gods.

Any other new posts about this subject will be deleted, or locked and referred to this one.

New threads about religious concepts that play inside their own ruleset are allowed, and we kindly ask that you refrain from turning those well meaning threads into arguments about religion as a whole.


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423423 17/03/13(Mon)15:25 No. 12849 ID: d874d2

philosophical zombie




READ THIS BEFORE POSTING YOU PILE OF FAGGOTS Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/09/09(Fri)04:51 No. 2371 ID: 175f07 [Reply] Locked Stickied
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We interrupt your scheduled bickering for this important announcement: Understanding /phi/

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    • A place to discuss epistemology, ethics, aesthetics, metaphysics, and logic, in a general sense, or in an applied sense (in sex, science, vidya, your mother).
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    • A place where the global rules do not apply.
An inability to follow these conventions will result in a warning!
Repeat offenders will be banned!


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Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/12/04(Sun)05:06 No. 4980 ID: 4c1a8e

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Anonymous 16/03/09(Wed)08:23 No. 12458 ID: 3ee603 [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
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Did Darwin answer the question of what the meaning of life is?


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Anonymous 17/03/17(Fri)01:11 No. 12855 ID: c7c493
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Nooooo


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Anonymous 17/03/17(Fri)01:12 No. 12856 ID: c7c493

And the meaning of life is 102


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Anonymous 17/03/26(Sun)14:27 No. 12867 ID: 7cf7bd

>>12854

Yeah. His ideas are far from believable and poorly substantiated. Like how the so called "Java Man" was supposed to prove that humans come from monkeys when in reality it was an extinct ape. The fossil called Java Man was the femur of a modern man along with the skull cap of an unrelated species. When this was discovered 100 years ago, the man claiming ownership, Dubois, then hid the bones under his porch for decades and
refused to confess his crime.




Anonymous 16/12/24(Sat)23:39 No. 12763 ID: 0f36a6 [Reply]
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https://richarddawkins.net/2016/06/yes-there-have-been-aliens/

Why are atheists so obsessed with aliens and other conspiracy theories? There is literally no credible evidence for their existence. Is it because they are immature manchildren?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox


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Anonymous 17/03/23(Thu)22:59 No. 12864 ID: eb915c

>>12862

Why so mad, my neckbeard friend? You rely on "what if" and "probably". Those aren't arguments. That's you engaging in wishful thinking without the slightest shred of evidence.


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JPHertz 17/03/24(Fri)21:57 No. 12865 ID: 788f72

>>12864

Mad? Not at all. I'm not relying on "what if" arguments, I'm relying on probability. I'm not saying aliens do or don't, but there is a high probability that there is some sort of life on other planets. Even if it's just bacteria.


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Anonymous 17/03/25(Sat)00:11 No. 12866 ID: eb915c

>>12865

>high probability

There you go again. "What if aliens exist? Then surely it's just bacteria but since I can't rely on any actual evidence I'll just concede that advanced civilizations are pure fedora tipping Star Wars fantasies".




Rights Anonymous 17/03/22(Wed)10:09 No. 12857 ID: bfae6f [Reply]
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a. Are rights natural? Or b. products of society/government?

a1. If rights are natural, do they only apply to humans?

a1a. Why do they only apply to humans?

a2. How can rights be natural if life isn't a necessary condition for the universe to exist (meaning if all life were to cease to exist, the universe would still be here)?


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Anonymous 17/03/22(Wed)20:53 No. 12861 ID: 9c7863

>>12857
Hobbes was often right for the wrong reasons.

>Are rights natural?
No--it's empirically clear that rights of humans and any other animal are a social construct, and any attribution of rights from a higher power or moral/philosophical dogma are myths that humans have constructed.

What is natural, anyway? Hobbes didn't know shit about the natural world--he thought everything that wasn't Europe in his time was a barbaric and primitive butthole because they didn't worship his god, even though there were many times and places in the world in history, like the Persian empire and several Chinese dynasties that were arguably more liberal and better to live in than Enlightenment Europe.

This doesn't mean that the myth of natural rights isn't an important one to have--it's what keeps us from getting our shit kicked (at least too much) by richer or more powerful people and forces. Natural rights keep children from working in factories or being child-soldiers, and natural rights let us eat/drink/fuck/smoke whatever we want as long as nobody else gets hurt. Whether rights are a product of society or god is not terribly important compared to the providential usefulness of having rights so we can discuss these things.

Tl;dr: Rights are human constructed myths, like god, money, chastity, capitalism, communism, and familial bonds. But like all of those other myths, a great importance has to be placed upon it because we have a vested interest in perpetuating at least dimensions of many myths to prosper as people.




exhalted philosophers give common advice Anonymous 17/01/15(Sun)07:39 No. 12787 ID: d58e80 [Reply]
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How come "continental philosophers" end up making such common statements like, "don't think about it too much," "people are shitty," "keep on trucking," "hang in there!" Even after all of their pondering, they come up with wisdom that anyone over the age of 50 can tell you?


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Anonymous 17/03/01(Wed)15:55 No. 12839 ID: 19b3e3

Probably because you don't need to be a philosopher to not give a fuck about others' problem


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Anonymous 17/03/09(Thu)06:49 No. 12846 ID: f7d6fa

>>12787
because we all adjust to roughly the same odds, so the human condition is roughly estimatable.


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Anonymous 17/03/15(Wed)19:19 No. 12852 ID: 6df417

Because we all know it, but can't do it. We are just slaves to our monkey brains.




Preference vs Classical Utilitarianism? Anonymous 16/03/06(Sun)11:33 No. 12455 ID: c988f8 [Reply]
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Any scenario where the two would give different advice as to what is morally correct?


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Anonymous 17/03/02(Thu)21:07 No. 12842 ID: 54ff7b

zillions.

Classical utilitarianism says to maximize pleasure; preference utilitarianism says to maximize preference satisfaction. But someone's preferences can be satisfied without their knowing it, and they might prefer an outcome they know will be much less pleasant than some alternative.

For example, a dying writer might prefer to spend his last days finishing his novel, though this will mean forgoing morphine in order to think clearly. All things being equal, the preference utilitarian will say that I ought to help the writer finish, though the classical utilitarian may say that I ought to give him the morphine.


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Anonymous 17/03/07(Tue)19:56 No. 12844 ID: 68162d

And the literal utilitarian will say How much does he like morphine?




Love Lost Soul 16/02/19(Fri)20:05 No. 12441 ID: 048704 [Reply]
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Does love exist if we take away the innate, animal desire to breed?


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Anonymous 16/11/28(Mon)08:01 No. 12732 ID: a6be23

Fantasies can be lived out in reality.
Love is just kind of Wittgenstein word game.


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Anonymous 16/12/01(Thu)18:42 No. 12737 ID: 66a496

Yes.

I love my mom and dad.

I don't want to fuck either of them.

/scene


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Anonymous 17/03/02(Thu)20:40 No. 12841 ID: 54ff7b

Yes. From Plato's Symposium, one of the most wonderful works on love in philosophy:

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“‘Briefly then,’ said she, ‘love loves the good to be one's own for ever.’

“‘That is the very truth,’ I said.

“‘Now if love is always for this,’ she proceeded, ‘what is the method of those who pursue it, and what is the behavior whose eagerness and straining are to be termed love? What actually is this effort? Can you tell me?’
“‘Ah, Diotima,’ I said; ‘in that case I should hardly be admiring you and your wisdom, and sitting at your feet to be enlightened on just these questions.’

“‘Well, I will tell you,’ said she; ‘it is begetting on a beautiful thing by means of both the body and the soul.’

“‘It wants some divination to make out what you mean,’ I said; ‘I do not understand.’

“‘Let me put it more clearly,’ she said. ‘All men are pregnant, Socrates, both in body and in soul: on reaching a certain age our nature yearns to beget. This it cannot do upon an ugly person, but only on the beautiful: the conjunction of man and woman is a begetting for both.1 It is a divine affair, this engendering and bringing to birth, an immortal element in the creature that is mortal; and it cannot occur in the discordant.
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do /phi/ even logic? Anonymous 16/10/31(Mon)07:59 No. 12694 ID: 82c3eb [Reply]
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Solve it


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Anonymous 16/10/31(Mon)12:48 No. 12695 ID: 0bfb30
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Is not obviously 3 the answer


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Anonymous 17/02/27(Mon)12:50 No. 12838 ID: eaf6f5

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