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Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/10/26(Wed)10:01 No. 3905 ID: 4c1a8e [Reply] Stickied

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For growing and shit or whatever I present to you:


Put in whatever resources that fit in here, whether it's from wikipedia, youtube, some university, or where ever. Just remember to keep it within the board's guidelines and rules.
Use it or lose it, faggots.

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Anonymous 19/05/17(Fri)12:48 No. 13979 ID: 25d34d


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This thread is for discussion of the validity of religion(s) and arguments for and against the existence of god/gods.

Any other new posts about this subject will be deleted, or locked and referred to this one.

New threads about religious concepts that play inside their own ruleset are allowed, and we kindly ask that you refrain from turning those well meaning threads into arguments about religion as a whole.

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Anonymous 19/05/21(Tue)03:31 No. 13984 ID: 85cec8

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READ THIS BEFORE POSTING YOU PILE OF FAGGOTS Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/09/09(Fri)04:51 No. 2371 ID: 175f07 [Reply] Locked Stickied

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Atheism is evil Anonymous 19/02/18(Mon)09:42 No. 13885 ID: 1556f2 [Reply] [Last 50 posts]

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>Moral relativism (good or bad cannot be defined as the atheist doesn't acknowledge any authority)
>Meaninglessness (existence is hollow and devoid of values)
>Cult of Self (the own ego is the only thing that matters)
>Scientism (an obsession with science that becomes the only prevailing truth)

If you're a fedora you're pretty much advocating for psychopathy.

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Anonymous 19/08/18(Sun)11:20 No. 14094 ID: 602775

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Imagine being so cucked by an imaginary person you think with out being forced to behave people just go crazy and rape and kill everything.

I, actually, suggest you read some classical econ books; Human beings are self interested creatures. Generally, humans follow this rule. It is not in my self interest to kill and rape whoever I want because, not only, will the same possibly be done to me, but, I might be shot, stabbed, killed by my target, or, by other people.

There's no reason too. It's not in myself interest to put myself through all that shit. It makes much more sense to just be peaceful and co-exist with others.

Also, again, currently our society also uses prisons and law to dissuade people from committing heinous acts.

See, a perfectly rational explanation for human behaviour free of morals and free of your imaginary friends.

Anonymous 19/08/18(Sun)13:19 No. 14096 ID: a1767f

>It makes much more sense to just be peaceful and co-exist with others.
>a perfectly rational explanation for human behaviour free of morals and free of your imaginary friends.

No, it doesn't. Wars have been fought since times immemorial over food, resources, land and dominance (even today people kill each other over nonsense, just read any newspaper article). You fedoras have zero proof for a "rational explanation of peaceful co-existence".

You assume that applies to everyone because you're some beta that sits in front of his computer all day doing nothing.

Anonymous 19/08/18(Sun)18:24 No. 14097 ID: 899cdc

>Also, again, currently our society also uses prisons and law to dissuade people from committing heinous acts.
And were first established through the use of religion.

This is the problem, modern tippers likes to pretend that we don't need A,B and C whilst ignoring they were necessary for D and E to come about. Sweeping the leg doesn't work.

Why isn't circumcision banned in so many countries? Anonymous 19/04/24(Wed)02:02 No. 13965 ID: 87b921 [Reply]

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San Fransisco Failed, Germany Failed, Iceland Failed, there have been countless attempts to ban infant male circumcision that have failed despite having a majority support in the area? Areas where religious minorities are at an all time low, circumcision rates are essentially non-existent. Yet non-medically justified, routine genital mutilation (religious or not) continues to occur despite the gender counter part being forbidden by law.

What message does it send where males are violated at birth, while females have their bodies protected by law? Iceland hospitals refused to conduct infant circumcision and had signed agreements among the hospitals across the country to refuse such services as medically unjustified. As a result a vote to illegalize the practice was initiated which resulted in international uproar.

It's an extremely simple topic that people have an illogical habit of complicating. The right to inflict bodily injury on another persons body without their consent. Religiously motivated or not. I cant religiously mutilate animals. It's considered animal abuse.

The main contention I have, is to put the practice into perspective to see the true tragedy and the reason why it's not complicated to see why it should be illegal. To turn the infant, into a grown adult, and keep the situation identical.

You are 25 years old. Your parents have decided to take you against your will to the doctors, where people over power you, forcefully strap you onto an operating table, strap your legs and arms down so you can't move, and without anesthesia, take a knife to your genitals, cutting the most private part of your body as you scream in pain. This is something you'd expect in a scene from the Saw movie franchise. Not something we would callously turn a blind eye happening to infants.

So what are you thoughts on why so many countries have failed their own children to protect them from genital mutilation.


Circumcision is culturally based and not medically based. Cutting a penis to reduce the remote chance of penile cancer is like cutting a girl's budding breasts to reduce the chance of breast cancer.
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Anonymous 19/06/11(Tue)14:17 No. 14019 ID: 1a4ce1

me thoughts on this is too screechy to translate into anything nice. penises!

Anonymous 19/08/08(Thu)09:46 No. 14055 ID: 66b9e2

It continues to exist because it makes money. It makes doctors money, it makes insurance companies money, and the discarded foreskins make skin care cream companies money.

Modern circumcision is 100% a product of crony capitalism: the system that can commodify ANYTHING, even mutilating babies; and if it can be commodified IT DAMN WELL WILL BE.

Anonymous 19/08/18(Sun)02:01 No. 14092 ID: 65358b

Replace money. Do has penis?

Anonymous 19/08/14(Wed)09:47 No. 14066 ID: acc39c [Reply]

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Atheism isn't evil it's stupid. If you really think all the universe happens magically automatically then you're dumb. Admit it: what turned you to atheism is how ridiculous abhramic religion is, not that there is or is not a spiritual thing beyond our perception and understating.

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Anonymous 19/08/16(Fri)01:23 No. 14076 ID: 899cdc

>Then you still need to please every conceivable notion of god. many who contradict as you can not know which one of these conceptions of god is true.
Assuming there's only one right answer.

Picking the right god is a lottery. Rather than becoming a devout theist its much wiser to pick a doctrine you can comfortably live within. In this case your finite gains/losses are minimised but you still run the chance of the big win albeit at reduced odds.

Alternatively you can become a devout theist, find your finite gains within your religion, and still go on for the big win. Something an atheist is incapable of.

Anonymous 19/08/16(Fri)20:34 No. 14080 ID: eeabed

It could be several, but assuming one to keeping the argument simple. You are also assuming every form of disbelief is the same.
Why would an atheist not be capable of winning it big? Plenty of possible conceptions of god or gods do not care whether you are believing and in that case you could still win it big making the belief pointless. Unless you assume that the god(s) demands your belief, but that in itself is an assumption.

Anonymous 19/08/17(Sat)00:37 No. 14083 ID: 899cdc

>but that in itself is an assumption.
Too many assumptions...


EPISTEMIC DISAGREEMENTS Anonymous 19/05/26(Sun)20:23 No. 13989 ID: 5ace86 [Reply]

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Why do experts in areas such as the sciences or philosophy in general disagree? Granted that two experts are given access to the same information, facts and have the same intellectual capacities, what is the root cause of their epistemic disagreements?

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In most cases scientists do agree, at least on a general level. When you delve into the minutia they may disagree but that's mostly down to how they're interpreting the raw data of a study, though most of the time they come up with results that are close enough not to result in major conflict. When you have the occasional outlier who massively skews to a completely different conclusion, we must examine their data and the methods they used to come to their conclusions to figure out what's actually going on. This is why depending on non-peer reviewed studies are worthless, nobody's can examine their data or methods (which is, usually, because they're liars).

For example, one well known study by a pair of climatologists came to a wildly different conclusion than the scientific consensus on where the climate is headed. It wasn't until they shared an Excel spreadsheet, of all things, with an undergraduate who was helping his professor examine the study that it was uncovered that their conclusion was the result of a simple math error in one formula. Of course the pair's study was funded by a consortium of fossil fuel interests, but that they came to a contrarian pro fossil fuel conclusion by mistake was surely just a coincidence.

Anonymous 19/08/15(Thu)01:06 No. 14070 ID: 2dc938

Because humanity doesn't actually know that much about the world, and most of what we think we know comes from making assumptions based on what little we actually do. When two experts disagree, it's because they made different assumptions.

This especially applies to something like philosophy, which is ultimately based in nothing but observation.

Free will or determinism? What really drives a man? Anonymous 19/07/06(Sat)21:16 No. 14041 ID: 611850 [Reply]

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What do you think is the main driver of human activity? Free will, as seen by existentialists, in which the unrestricted choice of each of us is the ultimate point of reference? A model of behavioral determinism, reducing human activity to the rank of an automated reaction to an external stimulus? Or maybe some kind of mixed model?

Anonymous 19/08/06(Tue)11:25 No. 14050 ID: e93311

The world is detirministic in the way that there is only a present moment that is being reacted to - the only way to win and achieve "free will" is via enlightenment, which is total dissolution of attachment and total awareness of the empty, impermanent, nature of reality.
t. Buddhist

Anonymous 19/08/14(Wed)23:40 No. 14067 ID: eeabed

Well, all properties such as velocity, charge and spin were already determined at the moment of creation and everything we see and do is a consequence of these properties. So on the base level everything is already decided and randomness is only an illusion caused by us being unable to observe all properties of a particle. Thus there really is no such thing as free will because we are made from these particles and they already have all their properties determined at the time of the big bang.

Not a Szaiese Edge-lord Anonymous 19/02/24(Sun)06:35 No. 13903 ID: 4e68c0 [Reply]

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Is there any religion that offers none exsistence whatsoever after death?
Christianity offers Heaven
Judaism offers Zion
Satanism offers longevity or being a demon
Euro paganism offers Valhalla
There is Nirvana
Egypt offers ???
Buddhism offers something like that and almost every other asian religion does... i don't want to live in a temple.

I know buddhism is full of judaism and i don't want any of that Zion so no. (it depends if im alone)

I didn't figure out an image to go with the theme and i didn't got the death of a cell gif so fck.

Anonymous 19/03/26(Tue)11:38 No. 13947 ID: ccf3d1

Sikhs don't really believe in an afterlife.

Anonymous 19/04/21(Sun)20:43 No. 13964 ID: f881da

>buddhism is full of judaism
You obviously don't know any buddhists.

Taoism is probably what you're after, but then why are you looking for a religion to excuse you from believing in an afterlife?

You could just not believe in an afterlife. You could even make up your own faith and design your own dogma--I did.

On the other hand, without an afterlife, it's not much of a 'religion'; that's really just a 'way of life'.

Questions Anonymous 19/02/23(Sat)04:57 No. 13901 ID: 243bfa [Reply]

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I admit that although I have had an interest in philosophy for the past few months, I am not adequately read, even for the particular issues that have interested me, so I apologize if I have issues with clarity.

I've been taken hold by the ideas of Schopenhauer and Nietzsche, but particularly Nietzsche.

I've done my best to deal with the striking personal effect that Schopenhauer's postulation that life is meaningless suffering and boredom. I find it too grim and I've found myself naturally gravitating away from it, likely for my own sanity. Instead, Nietzsche has been of more interest to me due to his life-affirming philosophy. However, as much as I'd like to agree with his idea that personal meaning can be found, it just doesn't stick.

Aren't we all just working and eating to keep ourselves alive? For what? Is there anything that can be found in the pursuit of a meaningful existence that will truly fulfill us and help us escape the void? However we decide to find that meaning, whether it be virtue, love, carnal sensations, refined aesthetic pleasure, or whatever else I can't think of, is it truly enough?

While this pertains to the previous paragraph, I wanted to better emphasize this idea: if you live aesthetically, either through art or as an artist, is there anything new? I feel like there aren't any 'boundaries' to be broken in this limited world, which leads me to another question: can an individual be TRULY unique, is there a way they can define themselves that distinguishes themselves from everyone else?

Someone please enlighten me. Open to all responses

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Anonymous 19/06/20(Thu)13:18 No. 14029 ID: cf1252

No man steps into the same river twice

Anonymous 19/06/20(Thu)13:18 No. 14030 ID: cf1252

No man steps into the same river twice

Anonymous 19/07/30(Tue)23:53 No. 14045 ID: 76c270

Not the same guy, but i really wanna know why is that? Seeing things as games - as obstacles to be overcomed - is the only tangible, "meaningful" thing us humans can do, is it not?

Teleology doesn't explain behavior, afteral. The only thing there is is adaptation to one's environment. "Evolution" is a misleading term.

And, as all the harmful social constructs, vague modern ideals, sedentarism and alianation teached us, the notion of surplus (be it as symbolic culture or material sum) isn't as good as mass society makes you believe.

So, by giving up on useless things like the surrogate activities and cultural delusions of civilization, what is left other than playing a game of adaptation?

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