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Historian 14/02/02(Sun)22:12 No. 14123 [Reply]

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What would happen if theoretically, all the states of the united states became city-states?

Temporarily removing all prescence of the United States from the world-wide stage, until the individual states who still wish to continue that effort must fund it. This would give states who wish to focus on growing the economy and not contributing to causes they have no control over, maybe?

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Historian 14/03/30(Sun)06:51 No. 14235

that explains so much

Historian 14/04/14(Mon)09:00 No. 14262

The United States is annexed by a world power.

Historian 14/04/17(Thu)21:57 No. 14264

Indeed, the US wpi;d become South Canada in a matter of months.

They'd have to kill off much of the people living there, but oddly enough nobody would care what happens to those self-centered antisocial assholes.

Architecture general Historian 14/04/02(Wed)03:01 No. 14239 [Reply]

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Discussion about historic buildings.
More to what I want to know, the GPO Dublin, essentially where the English buck was stopped by Mikey C and the boys, has three statues atop it: Hibernia, Mercury and Fidelity.
Problem is I cannot find any trace of "Fidelity" as a deity or otherwise in mythology or historic beliefs. The statue in question appears female, has a dog at its feet and a key in hand, It's my oppinion the statue is actually Hecaté (Goddess of Poison, witchcraft, household blessings, actually quite suitable for Ireland), what think?

Historian 14/04/02(Wed)12:43 No. 14240

Fidelity is probably a representation of Penelope.

Penelope and dogs are idealized faithful companions.

Historian 13/12/01(Sun)00:05 No. 14047 [Reply]

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They say the winners write history

who is writing our current history?

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Historian 14/03/08(Sat)06:42 No. 14201

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The Jews

Historian 14/03/11(Tue)13:54 No. 14208

The muslims. Wait, no, I mean the moral majority. Actually, it is the degenerate homos. No, the BLACKS! In truth, it is women.

OP, I'll assume you refer to contemporary history. Then it seems obvious that it is in large written by the US and western Europe. I'm sure many Asian and African countries have their own cute histories, but at least up until very recently they did not how the academic nor political clout to get their stories counted. For instance, remember how Japan at one point had the world's 2nd largest economy and was predicted to overtake the US as number one eventually? Still, no one gave a shit about their historians. Because there was around 500 million US soldiers posted all over their little islands that made any claims they forwarded impotent.

Historian 14/03/25(Tue)19:53 No. 14220


Historian 14/03/09(Sun)21:12 No. 14202 [Reply]

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We need a giant battlefield movie, set in any period with gunfire... preferably the Seven Year's War, this would be the best way to vicariously live in the most interesting parts of all of history

With all the funds... GoPro's in the actors playing the cavalry, artillery, officers, rankers, battlefield observers.. jumping to the king's point of view ( in some cases the General himself ) showing BOTH sides of the conflict. or third parties like nearby villagers or deserters

The scale will need to be huge, 40,000 ideally...

With so many perspectives (goProCams) you'd get a like a movie in the third dimension, you wouldn't necessarily sit down and watch it, though it could be edited that way for multiple movies within the battle, or you'd click on different cameras while the movie is playing throughout time and choose what you are watching and from who's point of view

6 hours worth of a continuous acting on a battlefield with high tech special effects and scripting would produce the most content ever

If Europeans are considerate to their ancestors they could work together to make it happen, i mean by god! they've been doing it for 300 years, this is a minor project to them!

Anon 14/03/14(Fri)00:01 No. 14209

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I totally agree. I thought I was the only one. The last good battlefield movie set around that time period was Waterloo. That movie was a job well done. It will just take so much time to do something like this. All the choreography and money...

Seven Years war would be eh. The battles get huge during the Napoleonic era. So something like battle of Austerlitz, battle of Jena or battle of borodino would be sick and would suffice for an epic battle.

But 40,0000 is more realistic I guess.

Historian 14/03/15(Sat)21:19 No. 14213

What about naval battles?
Coral Sea

The Supreme Evil Historian 14/02/26(Wed)19:05 No. 14178 [Reply]

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In modern culture Hitler is used as the epitome of evil, many will even consider the mere fact that he liked something as a basis of slander (i.e. Hitler was/liked X, therefore; X = Evil). His legacy will far outlast Bin Laden/Hussein and many others.

But who came before him, who held the gold standard prior to him taking it? And who was before that? Who's names have manifested evil on a scale unprecedented before them?

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Historian 14/03/04(Tue)03:13 No. 14192

Napoleon, probably.

I don´t know when exactly his reputation turned from "Monster" to "One of the greatest conquerors ever", but people didn´t exactly like him in the new age period.

Historian 14/03/06(Thu)21:03 No. 14196

Hitler wasn't special. All of Europe was a fascist hotpot at the time. Everyone thought Hitler was great until he started stealing countries the other powers wanted influence over. "Peace for our time" wasn't some great scam the evil fascist Hitler pulled on poor, bleeding heart liberal Chamberlain. The only reason we are being forced to remember Hitler as evil today is because he was such a clever asshole and tricked the to-be Allies so hilariously, they still live with the blood shame.

> These two murdered more people than all the other great mass-killers of history combined, including Hitler himself.

When you say mass-killer(murderer), I assume you mean people dying as a more or less direct consequence of their policy decisions, and not personally and physically killing people? Because then you might wanna look at WW2 death toll statistics and reconsider.

Historian 14/03/30(Sun)07:01 No. 14236

What did Americans think of Napoleon? they benefited from him by the Louisiana Purchase, anyone in France would either be bitter about him anyways

Historian 14/02/15(Sat)07:06 No. 14163 [Reply]

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How significant are the Olympics to international relations, worldwide? Do they actually help countries get back on better terms, like it gives them something to talk about, or they're forced to be together in some capacity

Or on the other hand does it calm the populace down for awhile, especially the Chinese

What are any other global effects of the Olympics?

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Historian 14/02/20(Thu)07:14 No. 14167

So Germany's exports of misery and death rose?

Historian 14/02/21(Fri)10:32 No. 14168

pop goes the "kiev-nobyl"
russia's exports have also increased ;)
much russkij, such sniper, very death

it was interesting finding out for sure that metal shields do not deflect bullets very well at all

Historian 14/02/22(Sat)10:54 No. 14169

Indeed, they've even imported Russians (in matching outfits) to run around Odessa and beat up anyone who objects to the government shooting its own citizens.

Historian 13/05/22(Wed)01:55 No. 13757 [Reply]

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Do you think that Neolithic people had a designated warrior class? I think the presence of purpose built weapons says yes

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Historian 14/02/09(Sun)05:45 No. 14146

AHAHHA, you faggots are so goddamn fuckin retarded.

Even reddit isn't as dumb as this rofl.

sage forgot my sage 14/02/09(Sun)05:45 No. 14147


Historian 14/02/14(Fri)12:04 No. 14160


totally forgot about writing that
I doubt specialized genetic engineering will be valid, desirable or needed to be honest, don't forget that evolution is *always* in play, even in the most stagnant of situations something will come around eventually, and that 99.9% of species are extinct (they're all dead)

humans have a difference though in that they can manipulate the environment around them as well as use a variety of methods to adapt to the environment - both come from the learning processes and being a social animal (you can watch others and learn from their mistakes)

this allows coordination and cooperation that when combined with tool making makes for some *really* sick capabilities, and a lot of the bloodlust is the result of a shitty life and abuse

I was reading a book called american fascists, and it talks about how essentially those groups are made up of desperate and scared people who want revenge against the world and society and types of people that betrayed them

so when obama talks about liberal values, but leaves people out to dry, this makes them hate liberalism, because his lack of liberalism isn't understood to mean a lack of liberalism, it's understood to mean liberalism itself is bad (this isn't helped by various icons of traditional liberal values cheering for him or anything)

as an aside, I'm willing to bet that a wage society is a decaying society in many ways (although not always - start/completion based projects have a results oriented process) because it detaches reward from work/labour

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Historian 13/09/03(Tue)01:45 No. 13902 [Reply]

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How did the world mark time before the A.D. years in the western world.

Like how did people in 300 b.c. mark the time, surely they werent counting down each year.

How did the Eastern world do so?

How did everyone agree to follow the conventions of the Christian years, (A)fter (D)eath of Chirst?

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Historian 14/01/22(Wed)06:06 No. 14109

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for the record mr.smart guy never answered on how they converged or of any instances where people still use their old time keeping system

Historian 14/01/22(Wed)07:44 No. 14110

I know that some ancient Athenian historians used to date by who was the archon at the time.

It seems to vary from civilization to civilization.

Historian 14/01/24(Fri)09:16 No. 14111

>any instances where people still use their old time keeping system
See >>14087

China most definitely only uses western dating as incidental, for purposes of corresponding with the western world, internally they still use their own dating system.

Which makes perfect sense, since their recorded history dates back to before the point where fundamentalist Christians say the world began.

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Historian 13/05/17(Fri)21:11 No. 13747 [Reply]

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Did the bombing of Germany have any affect at all? Could we really say it was necessary? Wasn't it the ground battles that made all the difference in Germany's defeat?

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Historian 13/12/22(Sun)02:08 No. 14074

Certainly it had an effect, but, strategically, it was a failure. The bombing campaign came about because Allied (and Axis) Air Force leaders subscribed wholeheartedly to the theories of the Italian Fascist Douhet, who claimed that all future wars would be won by bombing civil populations into submission. Unfortunately, Air Force leaders STILL subscribe to Douhet's theories, which is why American bombs have fallen like rain in Vietnam, Serbia, Iraq, and Afghanistan...and air-power did not win a single one of these conflicts. You cannot terrorize a population into submission; you certainly can piss the hell out of them and encourage them to strap on explosive vests and mosey out to try to blow up Americans.

As for the effect on WWII, consider these two related points. (1: The strategic bombing campaign was supposed to destroy German industrial capacity. (2: German war production reached its PEAK output during November-December, 1944...a mere five months before Germany was invaded, over-run, and forced to surrender.

Historian 13/12/22(Sun)08:48 No. 14075

the intended consequence did not occur
the side effect is that it opened up another manner of overwhelming germany

keep in mind that germany didn't simply get beaten on the field of battle, it collapsed as a nation before it was defeated

doucet's theories work but only in a situation where your population is absolutely enamoured with the idea of crushing the enemy completely into the ground with no second thoughts of their humanity

it's best summed up by machiavelli's thing about how if you have to hurt someone, do it so badly that they can never be a threat to you again

Historian 13/12/26(Thu)09:43 No. 14081

Part of the reason it was a failure, though, was because Germany's war production was extremely low given the sheer number of factories in operation. Bombing the crap out of one area affected production in that area, but they ramped up production in all their other under-utilized sections and made up for the lost capacity. After a short time that area would be returned to normal, at which point it could help absorb capacity from another area that got bombed.

The reason for low production was varied, but two major factors were lack of manpower and lack of raw materiel. What raw materiel existed could be shuffled around, as could manpower. Which is why raids on cities were made, to try and curtail their manpower.

Remember, by the time round-the-clock bombing was in instituted nearly every man of fighting age was in Germany's armed forces, leaving old men, youths, and women to staff factories. America reached that point too, but had far more raw materiel to feed to their factories.

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