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Historian 13/05/22(Wed)01:55 No. 13757 [Reply]
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Do you think that Neolithic people had a designated warrior class? I think the presence of purpose built weapons says yes


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Historian 14/02/09(Sun)05:45 No. 14146

AHAHHA, you faggots are so goddamn fuckin retarded.

Even reddit isn't as dumb as this rofl.


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sage forgot my sage 14/02/09(Sun)05:45 No. 14147

sage


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Historian 14/02/14(Fri)12:04 No. 14160

>>14120

totally forgot about writing that
I doubt specialized genetic engineering will be valid, desirable or needed to be honest, don't forget that evolution is *always* in play, even in the most stagnant of situations something will come around eventually, and that 99.9% of species are extinct (they're all dead)

humans have a difference though in that they can manipulate the environment around them as well as use a variety of methods to adapt to the environment - both come from the learning processes and being a social animal (you can watch others and learn from their mistakes)

this allows coordination and cooperation that when combined with tool making makes for some *really* sick capabilities, and a lot of the bloodlust is the result of a shitty life and abuse

I was reading a book called american fascists, and it talks about how essentially those groups are made up of desperate and scared people who want revenge against the world and society and types of people that betrayed them

so when obama talks about liberal values, but leaves people out to dry, this makes them hate liberalism, because his lack of liberalism isn't understood to mean a lack of liberalism, it's understood to mean liberalism itself is bad (this isn't helped by various icons of traditional liberal values cheering for him or anything)

as an aside, I'm willing to bet that a wage society is a decaying society in many ways (although not always - start/completion based projects have a results oriented process) because it detaches reward from work/labour

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Historian 13/09/03(Tue)01:45 No. 13902 [Reply]
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How did the world mark time before the A.D. years in the western world.

Like how did people in 300 b.c. mark the time, surely they werent counting down each year.

How did the Eastern world do so?

How did everyone agree to follow the conventions of the Christian years, (A)fter (D)eath of Chirst?


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Historian 14/01/22(Wed)06:06 No. 14109
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for the record mr.smart guy never answered on how they converged or of any instances where people still use their old time keeping system


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Historian 14/01/22(Wed)07:44 No. 14110

I know that some ancient Athenian historians used to date by who was the archon at the time.

It seems to vary from civilization to civilization.


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Historian 14/01/24(Fri)09:16 No. 14111

>>14109
>any instances where people still use their old time keeping system
See >>14087

China most definitely only uses western dating as incidental, for purposes of corresponding with the western world, internally they still use their own dating system.

Which makes perfect sense, since their recorded history dates back to before the point where fundamentalist Christians say the world began.




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Historian 13/05/17(Fri)21:11 No. 13747 [Reply]
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Did the bombing of Germany have any affect at all? Could we really say it was necessary? Wasn't it the ground battles that made all the difference in Germany's defeat?


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Historian 13/12/22(Sun)02:08 No. 14074

Certainly it had an effect, but, strategically, it was a failure. The bombing campaign came about because Allied (and Axis) Air Force leaders subscribed wholeheartedly to the theories of the Italian Fascist Douhet, who claimed that all future wars would be won by bombing civil populations into submission. Unfortunately, Air Force leaders STILL subscribe to Douhet's theories, which is why American bombs have fallen like rain in Vietnam, Serbia, Iraq, and Afghanistan...and air-power did not win a single one of these conflicts. You cannot terrorize a population into submission; you certainly can piss the hell out of them and encourage them to strap on explosive vests and mosey out to try to blow up Americans.

As for the effect on WWII, consider these two related points. (1: The strategic bombing campaign was supposed to destroy German industrial capacity. (2: German war production reached its PEAK output during November-December, 1944...a mere five months before Germany was invaded, over-run, and forced to surrender.


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Historian 13/12/22(Sun)08:48 No. 14075

the intended consequence did not occur
the side effect is that it opened up another manner of overwhelming germany

keep in mind that germany didn't simply get beaten on the field of battle, it collapsed as a nation before it was defeated

doucet's theories work but only in a situation where your population is absolutely enamoured with the idea of crushing the enemy completely into the ground with no second thoughts of their humanity

it's best summed up by machiavelli's thing about how if you have to hurt someone, do it so badly that they can never be a threat to you again


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Historian 13/12/26(Thu)09:43 No. 14081

>>14074
Part of the reason it was a failure, though, was because Germany's war production was extremely low given the sheer number of factories in operation. Bombing the crap out of one area affected production in that area, but they ramped up production in all their other under-utilized sections and made up for the lost capacity. After a short time that area would be returned to normal, at which point it could help absorb capacity from another area that got bombed.

The reason for low production was varied, but two major factors were lack of manpower and lack of raw materiel. What raw materiel existed could be shuffled around, as could manpower. Which is why raids on cities were made, to try and curtail their manpower.

Remember, by the time round-the-clock bombing was in instituted nearly every man of fighting age was in Germany's armed forces, leaving old men, youths, and women to staff factories. America reached that point too, but had far more raw materiel to feed to their factories.




Don't let Europe be Islamic Damileslol 13/08/01(Thu)10:49 No. 13863 [Reply]
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Okay so I have been looking arouse this Internet and I keep comeing across this same topic, Europe becomeing increasingly Islamic. I was already aware about the low birth rates in Europe(1.9 France 1.8 Germany 1.7 Estonia 1.6 Italy 1.5 Greece etc etc) but mixed with this Islamic immigration and high birth rate this is rather a large problem.
Now the way I see it is there is not much being done about it. However this could be, I dread to say it, the end of Europe as we know it. Freinds we must do something before it is too late. I say FUCK ISLAM. We can't just sit here wile this happens we must do something. I pray it's not too late.


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Historian 13/11/30(Sat)11:23 No. 14045

>>14041

Oh I don't know if I'd be so sure. Our culture was replaced with the culture of the Jews. That europeans abandoned their own ancient gods and cultures to adopt an idiotic sandnigger religion just because the jews in Rome were wealthy and influential at the right time & place is a fucking travesty to begin with. We lost huge tracts of our history in that fucking move. Europeans (& that includes the US) may be feisty and sharp and ornery and industrious at their best, but at their worst, have every bit the capacity to be as utterly fucking dumb and gullible and delusional as the next inbred tribe of dead-guy worshipping trailer trash. Every time I see a white person proudly say they're christian, I want to puke. The only reason they are is because of Roman politics du jour circa 320-330AD.

I'll bet the populations across Europe at the time would have thought it inconceivable that in just a short while, the majority of their descendants would know nothing of their ancestors ancient sagas and legends and songs, having replaced them all worshipping middle eastern tribal legends, & even commit large sections of the Israelites holy book to our memories, and regard its new edition as the cornerstone and everything good in our entire history as a people.

The shitheads pulled it off once. I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen again. Either way, I don't really care. Humanity is sprinting headlong into its own demise in about 400 different directions at once, and no religion contains any magic spells to save it.


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Historian 13/12/14(Sat)19:22 No. 14064

The other day when is was in the bus a group of sandniggers entered a while after two girls entered and one of the sandniggers said your ugly wanna see my dick i can not tell whatever or not it was directed to them as i sat oposite to them in the bus however thay said it the moment that they went down in there area of the bus so it would be strange if it was not an if it was it is a clear case of rascism against the native population and yet i am the rascist when i say that these monkeys should be deported WTF is wrong with Europe?


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Historian 13/12/16(Mon)14:36 No. 14067

Europe we need to wake up

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Historian 13/08/24(Sat)02:26 No. 13881 [Reply]
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Who was the biggest asshole of WW2: Montgomery, MacArthur or de Gaulle?


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Historian 13/11/15(Fri)08:44 No. 14033

>>14031

I thought the guy who made lego had an explicit policy about no guns or something

I guess technically it was broken with the pirates stuff

funny though, that picture makes me want lego now


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Historian 13/11/17(Sun)22:15 No. 14036

>>14033
Yeah, I remember always having to use the loudspeaker as a gun. Shit times.


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Historian 13/11/20(Wed)05:48 No. 14038

>>14033
Their policy now is "money."




Historian 13/11/11(Mon)10:32 No. 14029 [Reply]
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hey /hi/ a long time ago someone posted a site that was just about lots of pictures of war, it wasn't "realwarphotos dot com/net/org" or whatever either, it was just an amazing gallery of photos of warfare, it didn't have a particular nation's spin on it or anything like a pretentious "artiste" career pitch on it(I think), it was just ridiculous loads of pictures of war

I can't find it, I really wish I could, I think I might have found it, it's on ionet or something, ionet, uheller ring a bell anyone?

anyways, that site's 500 international server error'ig me at the moment




Historian 13/07/05(Fri)04:50 No. 13832 [Reply]
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Equality is incompatible for efficiency?


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Historian 13/07/06(Sat)09:12 No. 13834

efficiency at extracting and directing resources so that whoever is on top may benefit the most is inherently what is meant by "efficiency of hierarchy"

but one's own loyalties aren't to the head of a group, and they don't deserve the loyalty unless they do a profoundly "inefficient thing" - income/resource redistribution downwards

of course, this is only something that happens when failure for the group means bad things for the leader but not necessarily for the people under them - thus they are motivated not to use the common cause to take everything for themselves, and then turn around and tell everyone that if they don't serve, they too will die/or whatever

because people are in it for themselves/their respective families/kin groups, and of course the leader, will only pay if they have to keep others serving them

this can get complicated and game theory stuff is boring to me, but so far I've described a "leader, and multiple followers" grouping

a slightly larger group would rely on the leader, inner circle, underlings style of organization where the inner circle gets the rewards as a way to gain initial super loyalty, and then they're stuck in the same position as the leader

however, due to better organization, and the tendency to pick better and more skilled people at this level of organization, it means that one can keep the underlings in line


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Historian 13/11/09(Sat)01:31 No. 14028

Equality and efficiency go hand in hand

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage




Historian 12/05/07(Mon)03:17 No. 12337 [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
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What are you /hi/storians thoughts on this ~200 year old ideology, nationalism?

Most people that I've met that has an interests for history tend to be anti-nationalistic. Is anti-nationalism a by-product for having more knowledge of the world history?


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Historian 13/10/28(Mon)20:06 No. 14003

>>14002

Don't forget Joe Stalin, who is remembered as the ultimate Russian nationalist (not to mention a brutal tyrant who killed many times more people than Hitler). His real name was Josef Djugashvilli, and he wasn't Russian...he was Georgian.


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Historian 13/10/30(Wed)00:54 No. 14010

>>14003
But was Stalin 'really' a nationalist?


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Historian 13/10/30(Wed)21:43 No. 14012

I think so.

When Josef Stalin shut down the Comintern, the 'Communist International', he ceased actively trying to export the "glorious worker's revolution" to the rest of the world. His subsequent actions as General Secretary of the CPSU were always concerned with furthering the best interests of the Soviet Union, and, thereby, his own self. Stalin viewed the Soviet Union in EXACTLY the same way the Czars had viewed the Russian Empire. Stalin proved himself not only to be a nationalist, but the epitome of a particularly brutal, bloodthirsty form of nationalism.

Just ask the Czechs and the Hungarians.




Guy posts suicide letter on FB, kills himself Historian 13/10/29(Tue)16:31 No. 14007 [Reply]

Youtube  What you guys think? A lesson for us all? Fake? was he a faggot?




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